> "Everybody who is participating in this violence, what really amounts to an insurrection, should be held accountable," says the site's creator, who asked for anonymity to avoid retaliation.
6,000 people didn’t storm the capital. Intentionally taking these images out of context, and posting them like mugshots and calling them all insurrectionists?
I hope any one of the many peaceful protesters captured in those images files a lawsuit for libel.
I can't help but imagine how this would play out if someone did the same for any of the Riots this past year. It's a slippery slope and people are justifying doing things that would normally be considered wrong. Tech is great, but it's a shame how much it's being used to amplify and escalate all these tensions. What is the intent here? To be a public investigation force? Is that what we really want? How many times have we seen these things backfire (IE Boston Bomber and Reddit.. etc.)
Nothing good will come of all of this and it's disheartening that a large portion of the population is behind it simply because they feel they're in the right.
Antifa actively attempted to block media from photographing rioters, looters, and arsonists, and attacked numerous photojournalists ho refused to comply.
Yes, card carrying members of Antifa Inc. Pvt. Ltd. did that. It's certainly not standard protest behavior to avoid things like the parent post, or actual law enforcement violence.
I decided it based upon reasoned perusal of available evidence, as any rational being must...
But were I undecided, your "Antifa Inc. Pvt. Ltd." would be unlikely to sway me, as it mocks the very idea that Antifa organizes in any cohesive fashion (when we can see on Twitter, Facebook, and other such avenues that they clearly do)
The problem with publicly posting their photos is it completely negates any fair justice. There is no trial. They are already presented as guilty. Then who defines how they should be held accountable? The general public? That is not how justice works.
> The problem with publicly posting their photos is it completely negates any fair justice.
Both private and government posting of pictures (or drawings from descriptions) of people suspected to be involved in or of interest related to a crime, without any kind of prior judicial process or clearance, is routine, not punishment, and doesn’t alter the role of process required for punishment. It does not “negate fair justice”. Nor are they “presented as guilty” on this site, even in the sense that people might be said to be “presented as guilty” when featured in a wanted poster.
> Then who defines how they should be held accountable?
A court, as usual. The page ask for rioters identified by the combination of still face photo and linked video to be reported to the FBI, and provide the FBI’s tip link.
> Intentionally taking these images out of context, and posting them like mugshots and calling them all insurrectionists?
The site doesn’t do that, and explicitly links the source video for each face.
> I hope any one of the many peaceful protesters captured in those images files a lawsuit for libel.
If they are the party that actually filmed it, they’d be better off suing for copyright violations (though a fair use defense may well exist), as this clearly isn’t even approximately libel.
The implications of this are endless. But the application of open source technologies to enable the development of this project at the speed of light. Brilliant!!!! Absolutely brilliant!!!! It is also a testament to how capable these technology have become in such and amazingly short period of time. The rapid pace of advancement is exponential. Be afraid... be very afraid. ;)
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> "Everybody who is participating in this violence, what really amounts to an insurrection, should be held accountable," says the site's creator, who asked for anonymity to avoid retaliation.
6,000 people didn’t storm the capital. Intentionally taking these images out of context, and posting them like mugshots and calling them all insurrectionists?
I hope any one of the many peaceful protesters captured in those images files a lawsuit for libel.
Nothing good will come of all of this and it's disheartening that a large portion of the population is behind it simply because they feel they're in the right.
But were I undecided, your "Antifa Inc. Pvt. Ltd." would be unlikely to sway me, as it mocks the very idea that Antifa organizes in any cohesive fashion (when we can see on Twitter, Facebook, and other such avenues that they clearly do)
Both private and government posting of pictures (or drawings from descriptions) of people suspected to be involved in or of interest related to a crime, without any kind of prior judicial process or clearance, is routine, not punishment, and doesn’t alter the role of process required for punishment. It does not “negate fair justice”. Nor are they “presented as guilty” on this site, even in the sense that people might be said to be “presented as guilty” when featured in a wanted poster.
> Then who defines how they should be held accountable?
A court, as usual. The page ask for rioters identified by the combination of still face photo and linked video to be reported to the FBI, and provide the FBI’s tip link.
The site doesn’t do that, and explicitly links the source video for each face.
> I hope any one of the many peaceful protesters captured in those images files a lawsuit for libel.
If they are the party that actually filmed it, they’d be better off suing for copyright violations (though a fair use defense may well exist), as this clearly isn’t even approximately libel.