Ask HN: How to stay focused and motivated working from home?

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Any tips on how to stay focused and motivated while working at home?

I'm having a hard time finding motivation when working remotely. There are days when it is hard staying motivated working remotely or just spending so many hours of your day at home. Does anyone here feels the same?

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Same here. I tried pomodoro for a while but that was just not sustainable. I have no spark or enthusiasm for work.
Just curious, in what way did pomodoro because unsustainable? I don't use it all the time but mostly when I don't feel the "spark" to work.

I've tried many things but I've come to the conclusion that I will never have the same motivation for tasks I'm not interested in.

I've found that if I sit around and wait for that motivation to hit, it will never come so it basically boils down to "just doing it".

I know how that sounds but I have to just force myself to do it. I have the opposite problem with my own projects... I work on them to a fault so I'm not sure how to resolve this other than to start my own business.

pomodoro was making me really unhappy, i cannot explain it :)
Well I can't fault you there! I hope you find what you are looking for
I can imagine the pressure of a timer counting down can really get to some people.
Most times I've seen this question asked, I see a reference to "Spaceship You". So here's the obligatory link: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=snAhsXyO3Ck
That is a great video. I found it intuitive and useful to pass along to friends and family. Thank you for sharing it!
A strong sense of purpose in life. When every productive day brings me closer to realising a wonderful goal, I can endure even the shitty client I am unfortunate to work with.
Better than no client
This is the most underrated comment in this thread. Purpose is essential in ensuring one's mental well-being. Without it, you hit burnout or depression quickly.
I don't see how this helps anyone who is struggling. Purpose isn't something that you can just go and get more of.
I disagree, a sense of purpose is absolutely pursuable. It's merely a state of mind, a sense that what you're doing has meaning or makes progress towards a larger goal. What that meaning or goal is can be molded by conscious processes.
Everything in your comment can be true and the advice can still be useless. People need specific, small, actionable steps that they can realistically take. Generic stuff like "you need purpose" is either completely meaningless or inspirational in the short-term but with no real consequences.
We can't tell OP what their purpose is.
True. We could tell them a strategy to discover their personal values and strengths which would suggest an ideal purpose, however.
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For men, being on their purpose is the most important thing in their life.

The reason a lot of men struggle, especially younger ones, is that our society overall, especially single-parent homes headed by women, don't provide an example of this.

If you need advice on this topic, check out the Red Pill and MGTOW channels on Youtube. They emphasize being on your purpose first, and dating last.

Your perspective reminds me of Victor Frankl’s “Man’s Search for Meaning”. At least for me, many times the pursuit of a goal is the majority of the fun, even if I never reach it!
It's different when working remotely during a pandemic or not. Yours (and mine too) lack of motivation are likely due less to remote nature of work than to our isolated limited lives in general.

I'd say try to enjoy this, focus on things other than work for now.

Definitely this. You might even find that stopping trying to be more productive actually makes you more productive in the long run. Give yourself permission to do the bare minimum for a few days, and sometimes do nothing but relax. Loosening the bow for a while could let your mind reset and rediscover its sources of motivation.
I would suggest to take a look at https://gather.town

It wouldn't replace being in an office but some of their features definitely helps create a sense of being somewhere else such as having a desk, meeting areas etc.

What I am currently trying to do is to find a office space just for myself close by but that has proven pretty hard since everybody is expecting to write contract for > 6 months.

That looks cute and fun, but the moment anyone would try to video chat me, I'd turn off my video. Can't deal with it.
Sounds like you're suffering from mild depression; one of the common symptoms is lack of motivation. If you try powering through your symptom, there is a good chance it will make your anxiety rise. And that's arguably worse.

Let me ask you: How often do you exercise? Do you meditate? When was the last time you lost yourself on a good walk? Have you been taking vitamin D supplements (important for us northerners during the winter)? Lastly, when was the last time you met up with a few friends for coffee (if viable in your location)?

How do you jump from lack of motivation to a diagnostic of depression?!
The correct answer to the motivation question is not a single solution, but a holistic one.

Motivation and mild depression can be easily conflated.

The same way one can jump from lack of energy to a diagnosis of poor diet or poor exercise.
When my workouts, diet, or sleep start slipping, I find working more difficult. When I do all three right, work usually seems easy and enjoyable.

1. Exercising well (45-60 min of strenuous exercise, 4-6 days per week, walks for sun exposure)

2. Eating well (limited junk food, no alcohol, no eating outside of a fixed time window, home cooked, mostly veggies)

3. Sleeping well (8 hours, consistent timing, early to bed, no caffeine after noon)

That sounds like one step away from being a robot.
Those three things are not hard to do or unenjoyable.

You feel better for doing all those things and want to keep doing them as a result usually. I love to lift heavy weights and sleep. Eating healthy not so much but life isn't all about having what you want all the time.

I do differ with the no caffeine past noon though. I don't have too much trouble with caffeine and falling asleep though.

Apart from sleeping well, fitness & diet are tough at first but once you get in the flow they're easy and actually become a part of what you love to do. Just got to find the right workout for you.

Because it's counter intuitive. Living healthfully seems boring but feels exciting. Just like partying all the time sounds exciting but is actually super boring.
What is your home office setup like?

In the before times, most of us went to offices and we got into "work" mode. Offices are specifically designed for that. An astonishing amount of GDP is spent on offices to "encourage" you to focus.

In these times, I highly recommend a dedicated physical location in your home where you try to only do work (an office if you have a house, a small desk if you have an apartment). Working on the couch does not work for me. In fact, it makes it worse.

If you can manage it, put your phone as far as physically away from possible. The phone is a pandora's box of distraction. I don't care how much self-control you have or if you have turned all notifications. If you can have it within arms-length, you are always within arms reach of losing focus.

Exercise at least 60 minutes a day
I always found it odd I needed to bring my laptop to another building every day to do work. So I'm enjoying working from home a lot. I do miss some of the occasional real life interactions with colleagues so in that way I do miss walking around in a building.

We start each day with a video call with the team. Even when there's not much to say. Sometimes I just have a voice channel on discord open with a few colleagues where we can spit our stuff.

On the flip side: how to stay focused in a loud office? It's surprisingly difficult for me compared to working from home.

Edit: Suggestions for OP. Find purpose; keep your workplace tidy and if possible try to separate work from your free time as much as possible.

One thing I wanted to do (but never did) was to get a dedicated pc for work-related stuff. Because on my current pc distractions are one click away, one minute you are waiting for the pipeline to finish and the next one you find yourself looking at memes.
I have found this works very well for me. While I use the same PC, I have double boot with Linux for work stuff and Windows for anything fun related.

Since everything that can distract me (except HN) is blocked in Linux, I am forced to reboot to access it which is a great deterrent.

This is funny i actually have 2 windows installed one for gaming and one for work, it works excellent.

The gaming setup doesnt have slack/messenger and all those distracting things so when i boot it up in the evening i know im off work.

I can relate. And most of the advice to exercise, separete work from personal life, have a routine etc. doesn't seem to help.
Sometimes you are not focused because deep inside, you know that the task at hand is not what you need. If this is the case, and you can admit it, then it is an excellent opportunity to reflect on yourself. Maybe you are at a meaningless job, and it is time to move on. I just want to make a point that lack of focus may not be a bad thing.
I hesitate to give people this advice because most jobs have some meaningless tasks. If everyone who has a task like this would leave his job, no one will stay at his job for a few months. But I deeply understand what you mean.
The unfortunately reality is that most office workers, even tech ones, are so alienated from the results of their labor that it is easy to rationalize their jobs as meaningless.
... man this hurts deep but truth of the matter is that we need jobs to pay bills and not be homeless. I totally agree with you though
I'm working on stuff I find deeply meaningful and yet I still struggle with focus and motivation. Working on things that are meaningful and inspiring is an important foundation, but there will always be tedious parts to meaningful work, and burnout can strike any project. The most helpful things I've found is to work alongside others if possible, to take care of your health, to switch things up periodically, and recognizing that getting just a few hours of work done a day is actually pretty good.
First, This question is a lot deeper than probably can be answered in a HN comment... but in theory the only thing that changed for you by working from home is the amount of time that you "see" other humans... I would offer that the first place to make an adjustment should be there. Human beings are social animals and we need time around other humans. If you aren't currently getting enough of that you should add it into your life (like working out, or sleeping 8 hours a day).

Second, a while ago someone reframed the "motivation" concept to me and it's been really beneficial. It's easy to think of "motivation" as an extrinsic concept, but most of what we call "motivation" is actually better termed "discipline". It's a lot easier to fix "discipline" issues than "motivation" issues.

Lastly, if the issue is deeper look into the japanese philosophy of ikigai.

(I also find music can be pretty useful)

Having had years of anxiety, stress and also depression I have immersed myself in the topic.

Staying focused or motivated is a goal that shouldn't be a goal in the sense that if you take care of your mental health. Motivation and staying focused will naturally occur. Per person it differs what you need to do to stay healthy, maybe see a therapist if things go bad (e.g. if it really affects your daily living).

But in general it boils down to these things:

-Do work you enjoy, i.e. that relates to the values you have

-Take regular breaks and time-off. No lunch break behind a desk. Take holidays. Don't work 80 hours a week.

-Do meditation/yoga and/or sports to stay physically healthy and lower stress

-Do fun things next to your work that activate/stimulate your body. Playing guitar, painting, meeting friends, cooking. Watching TV / doing computer games is more of the same behind a screen work and thus does not re-energize you

-Take care of your social life, meet friends, family etc.

Hope this helps. Otherwise check Happify for exercises and tracks around this topic.

The biggest change I've had to make this year is to dedicate my working space to just that - work. Before, my desk used to serve as my PC gaming setup as well as the sometimes work from home zone. However, sitting at it all day every day has caused work and personal time to blend too much. I find myself tempted to watch Youtube or fire up a game in between meetings during the day, and at night I find it hard to unwind and get my mind off of work.

I bought a PS5 and have been doing most of my gaming on that in a separate area and it's helped in both aspects.

I use this quote occassionaly by Chuck Close:

  "Inspiration is for amateurs. The rest of us just show up and get to work. If you wait around for the clouds to part and a bolt of lightning to strike you in the brain, you are not going to make an awful lot of work. All the best ideas come out of the process; they come out of the work itself."
Second advice is - Get a routine. Learned about it from a book - Daily Rituals: How Great Minds Make time, Find Inspiration and Get to Work.

The book has short paragraphs and anecdotes about world famous artists, writers, novelist, musicians, scientist, painters etc, so some people may find it boring. But I keep reading it intermittently.

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If you're concerned about leaving your house due to COVID, the Oculus Quest 2 ($300) has helped with feeling trapped a little bit. I feel like I'm in the environment when I have the goggles on. And the exercise apps have been a great way to exercise in my room (I use Supernatural and Thrill of the Fight)
I find it helps to stick to an office-like routine even when you don't really need to. Like do actually wake up on time, take a shower, perform normal grooming tasks, get dressed in professional clothes, make breakfast, and get online on time.
+1

also go outside for a short walk to simulate the daily commute.

Pavlovian effect is pretty strong. Same goes for fitness - put on your working out clothes (have some specified) and you'll want to work out, partially because you will feel stupid if you put on your fitness clothes and don't work out ;).
I think it's important to figure out whether or not you're feeling this way because of the work, because of the pace of the work, or because you're home so much.

The work isn't interesting: Depending on your team dynamics you may be able to talk to your boss about this and try to get some more interesting stuff added to your plate. If you work for a toxic org or you're on a very small team this may not be possible. And to add another answer that people typically don't like - just do it. I just saw this tweet yesterday[0] and it was very timely for me as I've been struggling with motivation this week and last.

The pace of the work isn't interesting: I have trouble motivating if I have too little work - "oh I have three days to do this 4 hour task!" I also have trouble motivating if I have way too much - "I'm definitely missing one of these deadlines" and I worry about whichever task I'm not working on at any given moment. Having too little work may be an indication that you're ready for the next level in your career, at your current org or elsewhere. If you have too much, you need to talk to your boss.

You're home so much: Go for a run. Get your own groceries instead of Instacart or drive to get your carry-out instead of using DoorDash. Go for a drive for no reason. There are plenty of ways to get out of the house without being risky about it unless you are high-risk.

[0] https://twitter.com/BStulberg/status/1356330365007355910

I don't. I find my motivation to be the same, but it's far easier for me to focus at home; I've got fewer distractions there.

If I have any tips, first, try to figure out why you can't focus or you aren't motivated. If you can't focus because of a distraction and it can be removed, remove it. If it can't be removed, can you remove yourself (to another room or even outside for a bit)?

Getting motivated can be tough, because there's probably a million things that can factor into that and your job is only one of them. That takes some self reflection and maybe a friend to talk it over with. One clue you've given is that you seem to lament spending so many hours of your day at home. Prioritize getting outside when you can, if only for a walk. Work outside for a bit if you can.

Use an app to block websites that you tend to spend time on that you shouldn't be using. I use Cold Turkey on the Mac but there are many options.

Speaking of which...

That’s not something I felt before lockdowns, I was already working remotely from home and had no issues with it. But since COVID, and more precisely since my country of residence started their latest lockdown (now 4+ months in and no way to know when it will end), I really have difficulty staying focused.

Something I’m currently experimenting with is to practice sport outside and more regularly. I just got a bike with the goal to go outside a bit every day or so, and relieve my anxieties and other sources of tensions.

That worked for me in the past with other types of sports but all sport facilities (swimming pools, squash courts, bouldering areas, etc) are currently closed here. So let’s see if biking helps ¯\_(ツ)_/¯