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Tell HN: Twitch bans and double standards over female body types

3 points by faanghacker ↗ HN
I recently came across this busty Korean streamer who got banned from Twitch after her account was repeatedly locked.

Here's a post on Instagram where she talks about her situation with Twitch, and how she took steps to wear non-revealing clothing and still got banned: https://www.instagram.com/p/CBw5k8MHy_Z/

The reason given by Twitch was "Sharing or engaging in sexually suggestive content or activities": https://www.elecspo.com/news/velvet_7-banned-twitch-fans-protest-punishment/

I found a video of one of her Twitch streams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFqps7zSXzA

I suspect that the analysis in the video description is correct. Even though she is not wearing anything revealing, because her breasts are so big, she can make them bounce around just by dancing.

If a girl with small breasts did the same dance, I don't think Twitch would bat an eye.

Yet Twitch can't come out and say "you're not allowed to dance because you have big breasts" because that's discriminatory against certain body types.

I'd like to see what the HN crowd thinks of all this, from a censorship perspective.

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ratsmack
>Even though she is not wearing anything revealing

Seriously?

faanghacker
Maybe we have different standards of what revealing means. To me it would be if she were wearing a bikini, showing underwear, having a low V-cut top etc.

She's only "revealing" her cleavage because she has so much cleavage to reveal. Which proves my original point that this wouldn't be an issue with a woman with the same clothes but small breasts.

Daho0n
Uh, I don't agree with their rules but I can't get myself to say that this isn't sexually suggestive. I mean I just opened the link and got a list of videos of her bouncing her boobs and she even says it is "bouncy".
faanghacker
Oh it's sexually suggestive for sure. The point is just that Twitch can't outright say the reason for that. If she had small breasts, there would be no way to call it "bouncy."

BTW That's not her channel. The "bouncy" label might have been added by the uploader of the video

elmerfud
Ludicrous statements like "Sharing or engaging in sexually suggestive content or activities" are garbage weasel words that allow them to apply that standard to anything. People love to state that private platform can do what they want. This only true in a limited sense. While big breasts is not a protect class, things become protected classes due to this kind of exclusionary practice.

The fact they cannot provide a fixed definition of sexually suggestive and also provide an example to share with the person on how they violated the terms means it's just an algorithm and they have to stand behind their algorithm of x clicks is ban.

This is totally a form of censorship and its pervasive on these platforms. Nebulous rules that are not applied consistently. Instead of asking would you apply this standard to a small breasted woman, ask if they would apply the standard to a man. Why are applying their standards in a gender specific way. Because sex/gender is protected.

If a man did the same dance with no shirt, no one would say anything.

sigmaprimus
It would be interesting to see the viewer demographics of different streamers.

Would it be possible to make use of tracking data in such a way that if a given percentage of viewers of any streamer also have a history of recent visits to pr0n sites that such information could be used as an indication of streamers "engaging in sexual suggestive...."?