Fraidycat is very cool and I encourage everyone to check it out. It is a fantastic idea and it generally works well.
However, to save you time if you run into the same issue it has with Chrome that I encountered.. there's a bug where using the back button on many sites (including HN and many of our internal apps) can cause a non-logged in page to be fetched and rendered (as if the session cookie isn't being used) - possibly relevant issues: https://github.com/kickscondor/fraidycat/issues/178 and https://github.com/kickscondor/fraidycat/issues/194
No worries, I was very busy at the time I discovered it so I disabled and didn't have time to leap into the code as I should have. I imagine it's something quite simple. I love your projects! :-)
I’m seeing a heck of a lot of these services coming out recently.
I’m sure they are quite useful for a lot of folks, but for me, it was just a bunch of Slack or email notifications that usually showed me my own social media feeds.
I’m probably not the target audience for these services. I don’t really have (or want to have) a big social media presence.
This is one piece of software that I really love using.
One big feature is that it allows me to keep track of Twitter/Youtube channels without being logged into an account, while also keeping everything in one place.
More than a simple RSS reader, Fraidycat removes the feeling of being overwhelmed when having many feeds with many updates. A chatty website doesn't drown the others, only itself.
There's a second level to organization: if a feed is really too verbose and you realize you don't want to read each and every post you probably want to "demote" its importance and put it in another category.
All of those are most certainly possible with any feed reader but Fraidycat has put it in front
I get a good number of Github issues with people who want it to act like a normal reader. So there is good reason that most RSS readers act like an inbox. It's just a general expectation.
It's probably related to some sort of FOMO: you're following someone on a website, so you want to know when they have something new to say. But then there's the other side of the coin where you get all news from all sources, and you get drowned in your inbox and must declare Email bankruptcy. We are lead to believe everything is important and we must be notified as soon as it happens but our brains are not wired for constant influx of information.
This is also another reason I love Fraidycat: I _know_ it's fetching content a few times a day, so I don't need to check every 5 minutes. There's very little chance I'm going to miss anything critical if I only read about it a few days after it happened, and that's fine. It has reduced (slightly, ngl) my tendency to F5 on news sources and procrastination. I don't check as often for content, and when I do I know I'm going to spend some time on it.
Thanks for pushing for more slow web, whether it was intentional or not :)
Somewhat beside the point, but I don't understand how people are not terrified of browser extensions. I have decided to trust two and hoping to get rid of one of them eventually.
I'm not about to get a browser extension for an RSS reader.
I run Fraidycat in a separate Firefox profile which I don't use for anything else. If I want to hang onto a link from a feed, I'll just open it again in my main profile. I've found a side benefit in that the slight extra friction of opening a window for a new profile results in less frequent checking for feed updates, which seems like a good thing for me.
I also have my Fraidycat profile set up with the Temporary Containers extension, so that every link I open from my feeds automatically opens into an ephemeral container and nothing is shared. Doesn't protect against Fraidycat itself, but does keep things of only passing interest nicely hived off from everything else.
I was thinking of the alternative being a website like google reader. Yes, you give up control of the data about your reading habits, but you know the scope of what you give up.
For what it's worth, I agree that the traditional model gives up all control. I'm not a fan of that either, and I go to some lengths to isolate processes from each other. I certainly wish we had saner desktop OSes.
It’s worth noting that Mask.io are doing a similar thing. Except they’re scraping and storing everything in an encrypted network. And when you post, you’re just posting encrypted text that your friends can then read with mask. So you’re only using the main social networks for the transport layer.
I feel like since mozilla stabbed the mobile community in the back with the current version of firefox's complete addon apocalyptic landscape (yes, that's dramatic), tools like fraidycat just don't translate well to casual use.
I miss having an open mobile browser with capabilities, not whatever firefox is now.
Fraidycat 2 is going to offer a desktop service you can use from mobile. It won’t be here till later in the year tho, since I’m busy with another project at the moment.
Extensions are nice because of the low effort to install and try out. But your point ain’t wrong.
In a nutshell, I moved away from Electron (which was a quick prototype anyway) and have built a local service with uWebSockets.js and a systray icon.
Unfortunately for Fraidycat, I had an opportunity to collaborate with someone that I'd really been wanting to work with - so we've spent the last four months working on a blogging tool that's supposed to pair well with Fraidycat.
But I will be back to Fraidycat in the next few months to finish. I appreciate your curiosity very much!
Looks great. Just installed it. Already provides lots of value. Question, your github grid seems low energy recently. Working on anything cool in secret?
Heyo Kicks! Long time user, love it.
One feature would be nice, a possibility to change background colors and such. My eyes cant seem to adapt to the deep blue behind white and i get a headache from it sometimes
Wrong place to put in a ticket i know, but love the project!
Thanks for making Fraidycat and helping take the web back to the good old RSS days! I especially like the Dire Straits Money for Nothing video-like logo.
I have a question:
Is it possible to make the Fraidycat endpoint on your own server instead of having the browser extension take you to https://fraidyc.at/s/? Or am I totally confused?
It's not possible at the moment. I used to serve the pages directly from the extension - however, this causes the feed fetcher and the web page to run in the same thread - so the UI gets sluggish.
I moved the web page into a 'content script' - meaning injecting it into a normal web page - and that solved the problem.
Fraidycat 2 will allow 'localhost' access. (Later this year.)
Thank you for this. I was looking for exactly something like this. People post there stuff on all kind of media including blog, twitter, projects, github etc. It's hard to follow someone's work by going through each platform of their choice.
I've been using Fraidycat for a year, and its totally changed my relationship to social media. Namely, i dont connect to social media. I connect to people through their own sites.
I've been using it for a while and enjoy it a lot. One thing I've never understood is why there are time-based categories. What's the point of anything except the real-time feed? If I don't want updates as soon as possible, then I also don't want to keep track of it. Never understood the use case.
Fortunately it's a very small feature and can be ignored. To other users, it is a crucial feature - and establishes the mindset of how to think about your follows. (That you can follow hundreds or thousands of people and move some into the background - to check on a much less frequent basis.)
Really appreciate the question, nsilvestri, and that you've made your own good use of Fraidycat.
If you can export them to OPML, then you can import them into Fraidycat. (The 'gear' icon in the upper-right corner will take you to the Settings page, where you can import and export OPML.)
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I’m sure they are quite useful for a lot of folks, but for me, it was just a bunch of Slack or email notifications that usually showed me my own social media feeds.
I’m probably not the target audience for these services. I don’t really have (or want to have) a big social media presence.
One big feature is that it allows me to keep track of Twitter/Youtube channels without being logged into an account, while also keeping everything in one place.
15 years ago Red Hat launched a similar service and it was great. Unfortunately it didn't catch on.
0. https://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2006/05/6955-2/
There's a second level to organization: if a feed is really too verbose and you realize you don't want to read each and every post you probably want to "demote" its importance and put it in another category.
All of those are most certainly possible with any feed reader but Fraidycat has put it in front
I get a good number of Github issues with people who want it to act like a normal reader. So there is good reason that most RSS readers act like an inbox. It's just a general expectation.
This is also another reason I love Fraidycat: I _know_ it's fetching content a few times a day, so I don't need to check every 5 minutes. There's very little chance I'm going to miss anything critical if I only read about it a few days after it happened, and that's fine. It has reduced (slightly, ngl) my tendency to F5 on news sources and procrastination. I don't check as often for content, and when I do I know I'm going to spend some time on it.
Thanks for pushing for more slow web, whether it was intentional or not :)
No issues so far, nor do I miss feature _X_ from previous readers I've used.
I don't use the Importance filters.
I'm not about to get a browser extension for an RSS reader.
I also have my Fraidycat profile set up with the Temporary Containers extension, so that every link I open from my feeds automatically opens into an ephemeral container and nothing is shared. Doesn't protect against Fraidycat itself, but does keep things of only passing interest nicely hived off from everything else.
The primary is for anything company or client related stuff. It is where I debug client websites (at least if I need to log in), check mail etc.
The other one is for research.
Last time I know I was hit by malware was on a locked down company laptop >10 so years ago, a drive by exploit from a banner ad on a blog.
Conclusion might surprise some of you: I'm still scared! (Which might be the reason why this actually works for me.)
Installing an RSS reader as a separate program would in fact be more dangerous than one as an extension.
For what it's worth, I agree that the traditional model gives up all control. I'm not a fan of that either, and I go to some lengths to isolate processes from each other. I certainly wish we had saner desktop OSes.
Pretty interesting idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgA4GzRsldI
I miss having an open mobile browser with capabilities, not whatever firefox is now.
Install kiwi on Android for extension enabled Chromium.
Extensions are nice because of the low effort to install and try out. But your point ain’t wrong.
https://fraidyc.at/blog/the-fraidiest-cat-you've-ever-known/
https://fraidyc.at/blog/peaky-panels
https://fraidyc.at/blog/electronic-drawers-that's-all
In a nutshell, I moved away from Electron (which was a quick prototype anyway) and have built a local service with uWebSockets.js and a systray icon.
Unfortunately for Fraidycat, I had an opportunity to collaborate with someone that I'd really been wanting to work with - so we've spent the last four months working on a blogging tool that's supposed to pair well with Fraidycat.
But I will be back to Fraidycat in the next few months to finish. I appreciate your curiosity very much!
Also having a connection issue with both Twitch and TikTok unfortunately right now. Will update here when I have it solved.
UPDATE: The TikTok and Twitch issue is resolved. No need to update the extension - picks up the change automatically.
The UI could desperately use a search bar across the names of all feeds/sources a user is following.
EDIT: I don't know JS very well yet but I could try to add it myself. I'll take a look at the Fraidycat source.
Worked on this fork of elasticlunr.js for that purpose: https://github.com/kickscondor/elasticlunr.js
If you want a peek, our day-to-day diary is here: https://futureland.tv/glitchyowl/multiverse-diary
Wrong place to put in a ticket i know, but love the project!
I have a question:
Is it possible to make the Fraidycat endpoint on your own server instead of having the browser extension take you to https://fraidyc.at/s/? Or am I totally confused?
I moved the web page into a 'content script' - meaning injecting it into a normal web page - and that solved the problem.
Fraidycat 2 will allow 'localhost' access. (Later this year.)
Everyone check out https://www.simongriffee.com/ - my fave is the photo section. Your blog is great as well.
This solves it. Thank you :)
I urge everyone to check out Kickscondor's website for some 90's era web design nostalgia
https://www.kickscondor.com/
https://unimaginable-heights.neocities.org (best home page of the moment)
http://weiweihsu.com (my collaborator - check out her 'comic logs')
https://sphygm.us (amaaaazing personal tiddlywiki)
- Bandcamp - DeviantArt - Facebook (public users) - Github - Instagram - Kickstarter - Patreon - Pinterest - Reddit - Soundcloud - Tumblr - TikTok - Twitch - Twitter - Vimeo - YouTube
Some other smaller sites are also described in the definition file: https://fraidyc.at/defs/social.json
* Which feeds are fetched first.
* Which feeds are hidden from view. (Only 'real-time' is show on the first view.)
* The tab for each tag will be colored according to the status of 'Real-time' follows.
Importance is not a fixed number. It acts as a gradient: https://twitter.com/glitchyowl/status/1285757728049094656
Fortunately it's a very small feature and can be ignored. To other users, it is a crucial feature - and establishes the mindset of how to think about your follows. (That you can follow hundreds or thousands of people and move some into the background - to check on a much less frequent basis.)
Really appreciate the question, nsilvestri, and that you've made your own good use of Fraidycat.
not acceptable