Ask HN: 1000 signups a week, but how to gain long term engagement?
After an embarrassing first release, and an awesome UX/UI redesign of our cloud-based iPhone app, we're pleased to be getting a steady 1000 signups a week on our free app. But we're stumped on how to turn this initial interest into long term engagement for our group productivity app.
The engagement funnel looks like this: we don't advertise much (ad words isn't working for us, banners perform better and in-app ads are ok but not for our target audience: professionals) so through self-driven discovery these new users are coming to us based on App Store searches: Group Messaging, Productivity, Real-time Messaging, Shared Contacts, Shared To-Do's seem to be what's drawing people in. Users have described it as a "peer-to-peer CRM," or an "Evernote for Contacts," or a "Basecamp/Highrise for those who don't know what Basecamp is!"
Next, after installing the app, the sign-up process is easy but we require an email + password based authentication because we support invitations and only want to send out trusted invites. We also give users the options to choose an avatar, and activate location & push notifications. The point is, it's time consuming. Which means the initial engagement, the expectation anyway, is high. About 75% of users are uploading custom avatars. About 80% of users confirm their email address (two-step process).
Last, we offer users an option to invite teammates from either their LinkedIn or Twitter social graph. Again, we're focused on professional users so we avoided Facebook integration. You can also invite teammates later, by email. Perhaps this is our first indication that something's wrong because very few people are using LinkedIn or Twitter invitations.
Finally, users enter the main features of the app. We measure engagement here and find roughly 60% of users create some form of content (Contacts, Status Update, To-Do Item, etc.) so they take the first step.
And then we lose them.
We have about a 35% retention rate the first week, higher in Asia, and then dropping from there. Very few respond to follow-on email prompts or push notifications. They just fade away. Leaving behind a ghost record of their effort & aspirations. Clearly, they were looking for something else. But they signed up, and shared very private info in the hopes of what?
And for those of you who've read this far, I'm hoping that you've had similar experiences yourselves and overcome them. Whether for a web or mobile app, how have you driven engagement?
Thanks, --ff
PS: I don't think the discussion above is specific to an app, but for reference here's ours: http://fieldforceapp.com
PPS: Holding back on using real names 'cause I obviously can't quit my day job with these numbers!
6 comments
[ 2.4 ms ] story [ 27.3 ms ] threadLooking at the app, you need everyone on the team on it or it doesn't really work? Or are there enough features that someone could use this Solo/with a partial set of team members?
>you need everyone on the team on it or it doesn't really work? We tried to strike a balance, the app does work standalone but you're right: the experience is better with a team. I think several apps (Kik, What's App) have set the expectation that it's ok to automatically scan their phone book and identify which users already have the app installed. So far, we've decided not to do this. Feels slimey, but so easy to do.
But your second suggestion is to make it easier to invite others, easier to build a social graph? Yup, we should rethink the UX in that regard.
There's a good UI design pattern website, here: http://mobile-patterns.com/edu
Are you saying that choosing and avatar (or not) and inviting people from LI & Twitter (or not) has to be done to sign up? If so, remove those steps. Signup should be as fast and easy as possible. Get people using the meat of the app ASAP, and worry about silly stuff like avatars later.
I'd ditch the LI/Twitter invite stuff, too, if it's supposed to be for "team members". Team members use email to communicate, not LI/Twitter/FB/Social Media.
EDIT: From your website, I can't tell what your app actually does, and why I should use it. I suspect people who install it don't know those things either, and that's why they abandon it.
>Team members use email to communicate, not LI/Twitter/FB/Social Media. We agree, everything else is optional.
> From your website, I can't tell what your app actually does Good feedback, thanks. I should say that the discovery is primarily from the App Store so the landing page is more focused on describing features in detail, but I agree with your point: get the primary use case front & prominent.
The problem I have is that there isn't just one use case. At a high-level we combine Twitter (or GroupMe?) with CRM-lite productivity tools. We're selling the tight integration as our primary use case. And so your point would be to tight integration more obvious, and get people using that feature ASAP.