The speaker, Leila Khaled, is a terrorist that hijacked Flight TWA 840 (Rome to Tel Aviv) in 1969 and who attempted to hijack El Al Flight 219 (Amsterdam to New York City) in 1970.
We should never give terrorists a voice on Zoom. Can you imagine if someone wanted Al-Qaeda terrorists to speak on Zoom?
Terrorists belong in one place: prison.
BTW, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu is a hero that was part of a 16 member special forces team that stopped the 1972 hijacking of Sabena Flight 571. He was injured during the rescue. There is even a movie about this called,
i'm inclined to agree with you but i try and hold my outrage. Things are done a bit differently here, it's not worth starting a flamewar, however correct you may be.
Both sides of the Jewish-non-Jewish intra-semitic conflict in Palestine have committed or supported terrorism. Several anti-Arab Jewish supremacist terrorist organizations became part of the Israeli government upon the creation of the Jewish state in Palestine. If we were to totally ignore groups who have used terrorist tactics to achieve political objectives, there would be basically no one to talk to when it comes to this conflict. Pointing to one side or the other and shouting "terrorist" just isn't a productive discussion. I think that's what motivates most downvotes on hackernews.
>The Irgun has been viewed as a terrorist organization or organization which carried out terrorist acts.[3][4][5][6] Specifically the organization "committed acts of terrorism and assassination against the British, whom it regarded as illegal occupiers, and it was also violently anti-Arab" according to the Encyclopædia Britannica.[7] In particular the Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by the United Nations, British, and United States governments
>On May 14, 1948 the establishment of the State of Israel was proclaimed. The declaration of independence was followed by the establishment of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), and the process of absorbing all military organizations into the IDF started. On June 1, an agreement had been signed between Menachem Begin and Yisrael Galili for the absorption of the Irgun into the IDF.
Those interested in the terror that the Jews did primarily against the British should read former Israeli PM Begin's book, The Revolt [1].
Begin's Irgun and the more extreme Stern gang were denounced by the official Israeli government at the time.
The largest loss of life by Irgun was the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem where the British administration had stored many files on Jews (and Arabs). The call to evacuate the building was made too late and about 90 people died, including 17 Jews. Begin would never had intentionally killed Jews, so it is recognized as a error and not by intent. Still Begin was responsible.
But primarily, in The Revolt available in Kindle for $5, the Irgun attacked infrastructure such as the Haifa refinery and railroads but also attacked an airfield of British bombers blowing them up. The attacks on infrastructure is far more embarrassing to the government than targeting people.
Still if you give terrorist a voice, then you open yourself to giving all terrorists a voice and I don't think governments would be open to that idea.
The Jewish terrorists of Irgun never sought to kill innocent women and children.
The Chinese have a great problem with terrorism and I find it likely that Zoom which has its servers in China, are not interested in antagonizing them by giving a voice to a hijacker.
Will they extend their cancellations to paying enterprise customers? What about elected war criminals who serve in the highest offices? I am curious how this will play out over the next 5 years and will they cancel say Trump?
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[ 2.9 ms ] story [ 43.7 ms ] threadWe should never give terrorists a voice on Zoom. Can you imagine if someone wanted Al-Qaeda terrorists to speak on Zoom?
Terrorists belong in one place: prison.
BTW, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu is a hero that was part of a 16 member special forces team that stopped the 1972 hijacking of Sabena Flight 571. He was injured during the rescue. There is even a movie about this called,
"Sabena Hijacking: My Version" https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4998338/
Netanyahu as well as former Israeli PMs Barak and Peres are in the movie.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/1980s-far-left-female...
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/1980s-far-left-female...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Rosenberg
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/blm-terrorist-rosenberg/
Would you like to be a plane that was hijacked?
If you were on a plane that was hijacked, would you praise the rescuers as heroes?
This is not difficult, so why are people downvoting mentioning that terrorists belong in prison?
Seriously. Do HN readers support terrorism and giving a voice to terrorists?
i'm inclined to agree with you but i try and hold my outrage. Things are done a bit differently here, it's not worth starting a flamewar, however correct you may be.
Edit: you seem to be shadowbanned.
>The Irgun has been viewed as a terrorist organization or organization which carried out terrorist acts.[3][4][5][6] Specifically the organization "committed acts of terrorism and assassination against the British, whom it regarded as illegal occupiers, and it was also violently anti-Arab" according to the Encyclopædia Britannica.[7] In particular the Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by the United Nations, British, and United States governments
>On May 14, 1948 the establishment of the State of Israel was proclaimed. The declaration of independence was followed by the establishment of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), and the process of absorbing all military organizations into the IDF started. On June 1, an agreement had been signed between Menachem Begin and Yisrael Galili for the absorption of the Irgun into the IDF.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun#Integration_with_the_IDF...
Begin's Irgun and the more extreme Stern gang were denounced by the official Israeli government at the time.
The largest loss of life by Irgun was the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem where the British administration had stored many files on Jews (and Arabs). The call to evacuate the building was made too late and about 90 people died, including 17 Jews. Begin would never had intentionally killed Jews, so it is recognized as a error and not by intent. Still Begin was responsible.
But primarily, in The Revolt available in Kindle for $5, the Irgun attacked infrastructure such as the Haifa refinery and railroads but also attacked an airfield of British bombers blowing them up. The attacks on infrastructure is far more embarrassing to the government than targeting people.
Still if you give terrorist a voice, then you open yourself to giving all terrorists a voice and I don't think governments would be open to that idea.
The Jewish terrorists of Irgun never sought to kill innocent women and children.
[1] The Revolt: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HXJ5N9E/
Talking to terrorists does not imply supporting them. And I don't want Zoom or the US or Israeli governments deciding who I may speak with.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Crimes_Act_of_1996