I was OK with the MS deal, but now I am seriously reconsidering paying for my Sype #. I still use facebook on occasion for purely trivial/social reasons: birthday parties, holidays, checking to see if there are any random friends who serendipitously now live in the city I'm visiting for business. But I use Skype professionally... even the off chance that these accounts would eventually be linked (i.e. "You talked to XXX on Skype, you should be FB friends!") makes me very uncomfortable.
D'aw, it's cute that Facebook is playing catch-up.
You can't share other information while you're chatting (watch a YouTube video together), it doesn't integrate with Skype contacts even though it uses Skype's services (read: network), and it's 1-to-1 calling (unlike Google+ Hangout), you can't turn off video and leave it only voice-only calling, you can't be selectively offline to people (you have to un-friend them).
If you need me, I'll be using Google+ Hangouts instead.
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you can't be selectively offline to people (you have to un-friend them)
It looks like you can, the same way you can be offline in regular FB chat: by choosing a Friend List that contains the friend, and making yourself offline to that list. I'm currently offline to everyone on chat, except immediate family, and my closest friends.
Wow complain much? The thing just launched a couple hours ago. I think it just makes sense to integrate video calling with facebook--because today facebook is most people's worldwide, online contact book so to speak.
The idea is similar to the way google added voice calling to gchat.
While I'm not saying it's a bad idea to have voice and video, something makes me think implementation and release was hurried after Google+ release (EDIT: I'm sure they've been planning for a while, but I think Google+ prompted Facebook to push this out the door. I am, however, only speculating.), and that there are things that should be taken care of.
> The idea is similar to the way google added voice calling to gchat.
Voice-and-video chatting for Google Talk (which came out in 2008, remember when I said catch-up?) and was similar in that you could contact your google-talk friends with voice and video, sure, which is what they're enabling users to do today (2011).
While their page (http://www.facebook.com/videocalling) has an image Facebook + Skype, I would assume I could use it to connect with my Skype people as well, but that isn't the case.
Expansion to potentially add this in the future would be a good marketing ploy, however.
I'm one of those people who didn't get a Google Plus invite, so maybe I'm a bit bitter.
But no one else I know did either.
If facebook can replicate Plus's killer features, even approximately, before it gets put on open beta, it will lose it's ability to win users.
Why would you want to maintain 2 social networking profiles when both networks do approximately the same thing?
Well… One can look at it this way, but this is mostly Google vs. Facebook. While FB + Skype is important I don't think Apple is really trying to get into social networks with Twitter integration. Honestly, I have no idea why they did it. Google and Facebook make money from advertising, Apple makes money from selling hardware (and a bit from selling content).
Apple needs applications clients want/need to use. Facetime is a direct competitor to Skype. Twitter integration will help on their social front. This is a 3-way war.
I'm just wondering how long it will be before the moral panic. Social networking video opens up new horizons for copyright/trademark violations, "public broadcasts" and all manner of Chatroulette-like tomfoolery.
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[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 53.3 ms ] threadYou can't share other information while you're chatting (watch a YouTube video together), it doesn't integrate with Skype contacts even though it uses Skype's services (read: network), and it's 1-to-1 calling (unlike Google+ Hangout), you can't turn off video and leave it only voice-only calling, you can't be selectively offline to people (you have to un-friend them).
Source: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/edwardbaig/2011-07-06...
If you need me, I'll be using Google+ Hangouts instead.
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Their nifty 'use these browsers' post include my browser (Chrome[ium]). Well done!
EDIT 2: Note that video calling for Linux is not currently supported. You will need to use one of these browsers in a Mac or Windows operating system. If you’re having trouble with video calling, try upgrading or switching your browser using the links above.
I think that's a good thing for Facebook?
It looks like you can, the same way you can be offline in regular FB chat: by choosing a Friend List that contains the friend, and making yourself offline to that list. I'm currently offline to everyone on chat, except immediate family, and my closest friends.
The idea is similar to the way google added voice calling to gchat.
> The idea is similar to the way google added voice calling to gchat.
Voice-and-video chatting for Google Talk (which came out in 2008, remember when I said catch-up?) and was similar in that you could contact your google-talk friends with voice and video, sure, which is what they're enabling users to do today (2011).
While their page (http://www.facebook.com/videocalling) has an image Facebook + Skype, I would assume I could use it to connect with my Skype people as well, but that isn't the case.
Expansion to potentially add this in the future would be a good marketing ploy, however.
But no one else I know did either.
If facebook can replicate Plus's killer features, even approximately, before it gets put on open beta, it will lose it's ability to win users. Why would you want to maintain 2 social networking profiles when both networks do approximately the same thing?