Ask HN: Have you stopped reading books?
Reading has always been a big part of my life but I was out with friends the other day and they asked what I was reading and I said that I feel like I'm reading more than ever but that I haven't bought or read a book for over a year. In their place is a mix of podcasts, blogs, other articles, YouTube videos, and HN (a lot of which aren't reading at all but scratch the same itch for me)
I honestly hadn't even noticed the shift but now that I have I'm going to make an effort to mix in some hardcopy reading material. Was just curious how common this was though.
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[ 2.9 ms ] story [ 98.4 ms ] threadThe tough part is always finding quality books of course.
I agree though that to methodically learn a subject books are probably the only way.
A former roommate's wife was a Hav-ard English prodigy and then editor at Penguin who actually got things done (I hear getting things done in publishing doesn't always happen). If you're in publishing then everyone pitches a draft and everyone wants a literary agent, correct? I think she eventually got burnt-out and left for family and writing on her own.
I don't know how I could bear the tortious, torturous ennui of playing with the other people's mud soup without wanting to shower and burn my clothes afterwards because it's not like many are even building mud pies, much less the Great Mosque of Djenné. My attention span is so limited (real ADHD) that a work has to be enrapturing with "Lost-level" antici---pation* to get through it.
* Let's do the time warp again.
My amount of reading has greatly varied from month to month throughout my whole life. I’d say it’s pretty normal to naturally take a break from it every now and then.
Just all the other stuff plus audiobooks
My favorite books are the dense ones, where I feel the need to read cover to cover or even read twice lest I miss something.
> In their place is a mix of podcasts, blogs, other articles, YouTube videos, and HN (a lot of which aren't reading at all but scratch the same itch for me)
I’d suggest a trial of removing some or all of these from your life for a while. Maybe a week out of every month. I’ve noticed that a lot of bite-sized time fillers feel satisfying in the moment but are overall less fulfilling than other tasks they replaced. For example, I’ve found that when I have 10 minutes to spare I’m happier if I go outside and go for a walk than if I click through HN on my phone. However, unless I make a conscious effort to go for the walk, I’ll automatically choose pulling out my phone because it’s convenient and low effort.
The most fulfilling activities are often not the most accessible.
Guess where these people find "stuff" talk/write about. They read books or do stuff. Honestly I will cut middle man and go directly to the "source". Already sick of "pundits" everywhere who read 2-3 books and create cocktail and start talking. For example, for technical stuff I rather read documentation or actual book than someone "hacking" blogs/YouTube videos. And also think 90% stuff people posting is garbage anyway. Garbage means "Not relevant to me/Not interested now/just Plain Old Garbage". now days I just read technical books for topic in hand. And for non-technical there are very few with high signal/noise ratio. Honestly instead of consuming other "garbage" information, I would happy to just stare at wall or watch movie or masturbate.
I think the mind's natural inclination is to "snack" on things like blog posts, news articles, podcasts, etc, and only commit to a long text when it's engrossing or aligns very well with your natural interests. The trouble is that it can often take a substantial amount of text (much more than a blog post typically contains!) to establish that alignment of interests, especially if the writer is an expert in their field and not a master storyteller.
If you are looking to get back into reading books and are having trouble getting over the initial hump, I found that buying a Kindle and Audible version of the same book and switching between formats helps. (Amazon will give you a discount on the audiobook if you already own the ebook and will sync your place between the two.)
I skim non-fiction, because many non-fiction books are composed primarily of filler material, presumably to boost a book's perceived value.
I'd pay +$1-2 per book for an official abridged book without the filler.
For an anecdotal example, A Short Account of the Destruction of the Indies is an account by a priest of what was happening in the New World. There's not much filler there.
Three Felonies a Day by Silvergate doesn't have prolix filler I can discern. Chris Hedges and the late Chalmers Johnson didn't seem to mince words and spread them around like hors d'oeuvres or paper doll chains.
If an editor had a word minimum, I'd do like a former English lecturer did on any of his papers he didn't think were actually read: write "Fuck you. Mary had a little lamb. Fuck you in the asshole." sprinkled throughout some actual filler word-salad.
- The Dog Stars by Peter Heller (I've re-read this a number of times)
- The Postman by David Brin (Again, re-read this many times). Nothing like the movie.
- Sapiens
- The book series by Dalton Fury (RIP). His fiction is great, and if you do a little OSINT on the places in the book, you can see that he's describing these places from first-hand experience. Extremely realistic and you get the sense that many of these events really happened and are fictionalized to bypass censorship. I've re-read his book series at least 7 times. Easy reads.
- One Second After by William R. Forstchen. Although I have some minor issues with things in it, it's a fun post-apoc book.
- Anything by Derek Sivers. His writing is concise.
- The Terminal List by Jack Carr. Pretty good, not quite as good as Dalton Fury, but will read the next in the series.
- Bunches of tech books
I am very picky about the fiction I'll read but am open to unsolicited suggestions. Prefer post-apoc type stuff. Can't really get into fantasy. It needs to be an easy read because I have a house full of kids and no privacy.
I stopped paying attention to sources of short-form pieces that lacked depth, signal, or elucidation.
# The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Vol. I-VI
I took footnote five as a book recommendation, and bought a second hand copy of From Galileo to Newton
Fascinating stuff. Right from the start, with the Royal Society being set up in 1660, money was a problem. Gentleman amateurs couldn't afford to keep skilled craftsman in their employ, building air pumps, blowing glass barometers and the like. So they looked for government patronage.
But to return to the question, I experience some synergy, with blogs and HN stimulating my curiosity and prompting me to buy and read books. Online is not entirely distraction and time wasting.
I try to recognize when I'm consuming too much short text, like your comment, and then I'll go an pick up a book instead.
I'll let myself drift on the web a bit more when I'm between books, but when I start to get interested in a particular subject, I go looking for a book on it instead of the (usually) much lower quality online discussion.
This includes both fiction and non-fiction. I just finished a Del Rey Star Wars book - much more enjoyable than viewing another Prequel Meme.
Rings so true. Deciding on what to read is not an easy problem. Here's some digital bookshelves for inspiration: https://tomcritchlow.com/wiki/books/bookshelves/
It works quite well. E.g. for reading on the daily commute.
I prefer non-fiction but I try to read some novels too for good measure.
All my news intake is from the internet now, here, and select youtubers, and lots of tangential followup.
Plus, now print is too small for me, I do better with text on my 31" monitor.
When people say they have little time to read, I understand. I’m just super grateful my current circumstances allows for it again.
My last book was Steve Jobs' biography by Walter Isaacson, which I found interesting, but I don't remember a great deal about it because it just isn't really relevant to my life.
I've come to the conclusion that I don't really have a 'need' to read books anyway. If one day I really want to read something then I will, but I'm not going to actively encourage, or force myself.
An additional point I'd make is that I find that in recent years, the books that I did enjoy tend to be written by people who already have an online presence (e.g. Randall Munroe, author of xkcd, or Jorge Cham/Daniel Whiteson, author of phd comics). I think there's something about the voice and tone of these writings that better match what I enjoy reading. Perhaps reading those books makes me feel like I'm reading something online that I like?
If I run out of books to read on my Kindle I'll stop reading, sometimes for months until I have time to find books I'm interested in reading, buy/download them, find my now dead Kindle, charge it, and transfer the books to it. I love reading long fiction series in particular because I don't have to figure out what to read next.
Mostly I hit a point where blogs and online text just didn't go into as much depth as I wanted and I realized the benefits of books (presumably they get compensated more for very long-form format of books?) and I find the physicality of books too comforting to remove from the experience.
Despite all that I dislike about the state of internet culture, I think the importance of text has been revived from suffering in the TV era. And if text isn't your bag, there are plenty of options and a new golden era of TV!
It helps that I can finish an English novel in a single day while I can pace myself in a foreign language.
I simply cannot stop myself from reading a story in English and it comes at a severe detriment to productivity and sleep.
I recommend time blocking (for this and other things). What works for me now is non fiction with the morning coffee, and fiction at bedtime.
I read all day long. It's literally all I do, aside from typing, at work. So the prospect of cracking open a book at the end of the day is less appealing than it used to be, when my day was more varied. (Classroom discussion, breaks for socialization or exercise, etc)
When I go on vacation, I typically read 2-3 novels. So while I'm reading less, I don't think I've lost anything per se.
I think it’s a combination of being able to listen while doing chores or commuting, and if the book is okay but not excellent, I can play a slow paced video game while listening and they add up to a worthwhile activity.
I didn’t read much in 2020 since i had run out of books i wanted to read and the audible subscription wasn’t worth renewing, but i’ve slowly added enough to my wishlist that I’ll re-up once i find one or two more. It’s not that other things are competing, I just find it hard to find true novelty.