Ask HN: How do you think the natural environment will fare?

2 points by desertraven ↗ HN
Assuming technological progress continues, and civilisation remains intact for the next millenium, how do you suppose nature will fare? Will it thrive, or will it buckle under the weight of humankind?

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Most current signs point to the hypothesis that humans are now and have been for thousands of years driving a major extinction event. Even disregarding the impacts of climate change, humans are far from reaching the crest of their impact on the biosphere. With climate change accounted for, the impact of our actions today will be compounded into the future.

Life, if it survives us will likely be pushed through another very narrow gap as it has at least 5 other times in the past. In the very very long run, life may be able to rediversify but, even if we significantly decrease our impact through extreme modification of our behavior or through incredible leaps in technology, we have already been a calamity for life on this planet.

The biosphere would take tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands or even millions of years to recover.

Nature will hardly register humanity as a blip. If humans disappeared tomorrow, plants would easily and effortlessly crack apart all the concrete, and the cities would be quickly jungle-ified. Remember, the earth has completely encased itself in ice and then thawed out multiple times, been struck by at least one large asteroid, etc. Humans are just very self-centered and self-important. I often think that insects probably take it for granted that they rule the planet.

Oh -- and most of the criticism of humans regarding the environment has to do with the emission of CO2. But CO2 ppm was much higher than it is today for almost all of earth's history. No big disaster, obviously. In fact, life flourished.

With harvest records being broken almost every year, famine declining, Earth greening with deserts shrinking and reductions in record low temperatures with increasing average temperature, it will do better and better. Humans will thrive, but if one species expands some other species will have to give in. I care about humans more than other species. The future of humans is bright, if we decide it shall be.
It largely depends on how you define nature.

Many species of animals and plants are severely threatened and most of them will die out or will only be able to survive in zoo's or wild parks.

Humans at the moment should be considered as a single population due to relatively small genetic diversity and frequent contacts with other humans from across the world. This implies that humans as a species are pretty susceptible to pandemics. COVID-19 is a pretty harmless pandemic, we have known pandemics for other species that (almost) completely wiped out that species.

If you are simply worried about all life on earth disappearing, that seems extremely unlikely. As Stephen Jay Gould said every age on earth is the age of bacteria[0]. Bacteria have always been the dominant form of life on earth. They were the first ones and they will be the last ones.

[0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/1996/11/13/planet-of-...