We're the guys from Hello World, part of the accelerator batch. This was a side project while we were waiting on another developer to refactor some code. All in all we spent about 3 days on the project. The goal was to make something we could listen to at the office all day without having to click "Awesome" every 5 minutes, but we went a bit overboard on the social features.
I don't have a twitter account, so I can't even look around the site or find out more about it.
EDIT: Not so much of a jab, rather just to let you know you've maybe lost a customer or two because its not worth the payoff for me to get an account to just look at your site (I don't know if its a site ill like enough to justify that effort!)
Limiting your audience from "fans of electronic music" to "fans of electronic music with twitter accounts (willing to trust us with access their data)" is quite a few people.
This has 7 points within 18 minutes. Forgive me if I'm wrong - but isn't it a little uncool to spruik yourselves this way?
I mean - fair enough if you had linked to a blog post highlighting some interesting tech you had used or something like that - but to a blank twitter sign up page... which I don't want to use... without even an overview of what the service does... that's lame. (even lamer to be vote rigging such a lame submission).
I don't have anything to do with them, just been listening to it all morning and thought it was cool and HN might be interested as it was made by dudes in the startup community as a side project. Also with turntable.fm blowing up right now, we could be looking at a rebirth in social music innovation which has been kind of stagnant since pandora/spotify/grooveshark.
Maybe that reinforces my point? It's not that it hit the front page - it really doesn't take many votes for that even during busy hours. But that it got THIS many votes so quickly during a low period... hmm... sorry but it's just dubious to me.
I'm not sure what is up with the recent hostility on HN. This is an interesting service that is already launched (so your quibble about it not being news is kind of strange). The fact you don't want to use it and you consider the signup page "blank" means you could have responded with positive criticism and helped them improve the landing page.
That would help the community more as a whole here.
The thinness is my fault, I filled out the description box but didn't realise it wouldn't actually show up. This is the first thing I've ever submitted
Console.fm is a way to listen to the top electronica charts, it requires Twitter log in to use the channel based chat system. We made this in 72 hours as a side project to listen to better music.
We've been electronica DJs for a few years and have our own special ways of music discovery. Console.fm automates the tedium that we used to spend looking ourselves. The music all comes from the soundcloud API and is played through sound manager 2.
Good morning (and happy day!) from Italy. We're listening console.fm, good taste. And I like that"it requires Twitter log in to use the channel based chat system. We made this in 72 hours as a side project to listen to better music", it's perfect so with twitter account only.
Nice, but having such rigidly defined genres means you're going to miss out on the best of electronic music today, which is increasingly abandoning the genre classifications which have straightjacketed the music in the past.
Sure, you can shoehorn them into house or techno, but that doesn't really do it justice. And having a 'misc' genre like 'electronica' is cheating. Electronica is a word invented and used by music journalists as a substitute for a proper understanding of the culture. And don't even think about including IDM or you will lose all credibility ;)
Ping me off HN so we can talk more about this, would love to get more feedback on finding amazing music off the beaten path. 01@helloworld.im or the email in my HN profile.
The first one is by Instra:mental - he has created some podcasts with dBridge (who used to be in a Drum&Bass group called 'Bad Company').
Unfortunately, those podcasts don't appear to be linked from the original site anymore, but here are the track listings for all of the Club Autonomic layers http://clubautonomic.wordpress.com/
But, if you go to their official soundcloud account http://soundcloud.com/club-autonomic-com , you can see at the very bottom that there are the first two layers.
I wouldn't even dare ask where various genres of tracked music (demo style, epic, silly, etc.) or video game music (NES, SNES, RPG, etc.) or the new scene trying to make dance music on old videogame hardware... could manage to fit.
Does not work for me, after twitter sign in, i am taken to this page: http://console.fm/genres which says "That page is missing, put out an Amber alert." in big
Cool, but I would like to have a way to know more about the artist/tune. With the current interface, it's not even possible to select the text of an artist's name or the song title to copy and paste it.
Really? I'm normally as paranoid as the next guy, but this only requests read access. Stuff that anyone can find out about you any way if you already have a (public) Twitter account.
The frontpage is rather mysterious, though, I agree.
I just don't want to connect sites together. Would much rather create a separate account at each website like the good old days. Puzzles me why new sites are cannibalizing their potential like this because I can't be alone in this thinking.
That's the whole point of OAuth; so that you can sign in without giving them your password. You can revoke the permissions of any 3rd party in your twitter settings page.
This service is very clean, Brings me back to the days when I would just listen to the tracks posted on ravelinks.com
I do agree with the comment about not being able to copy an artists name or song, and two features I would love to see are
1. a random/shuffle button, one that goes beyond the genre you are currently in.
2. the ability to click on a song and bring up more songs from that artists page.
Didn't sign in, because I couldn't get any information about it without signing in with twitter. And I'm not going to sign into a site with my twitter account unless I know what the hell it is.
Electronic music charts that you can listen to, the twitter sign in is for the chat feature. It's meant to be music to work to all day. Sorry for the confusion.
Well you can always login with a BugMeNot account for Twitter (http://www.bugmenot.com/view/twitter.net). I don't have a Twitter account and it's working fine with that.
I don't see why not, it's not like the site is requesting permission to do anything with your Twitter account - they just use it to count unique users as far as can tell.
Mind you, that also means there's no good reason to require a Twitter account. Sure there's the excuse of authenticating to the chat system, but this doesn't really need chat in order to work.
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I mean - fair enough if you had linked to a blog post highlighting some interesting tech you had used or something like that - but to a blank twitter sign up page... which I don't want to use... without even an overview of what the service does... that's lame. (even lamer to be vote rigging such a lame submission).
If I could downvote this - I would.
Tweeting things to dozens of people does tend to let the cat out of the bag tho...
I got nothing against self-promotion mind you. I just don't think a blank sign up page is news... anyhoo - power to you. The music is v. nice.
Maybe lots of fans of electronic stay up late?
That would help the community more as a whole here.
Grovulent - do you have DATA to back up your claim?
But I've never seen such a thin submission rise this fast before... ever... and I been around a while.
I wish my submissions would all rise as easily. I mean the app is reasonable. Nothing earth shattering. This many votes? Really?
For example, where on earth does this fit?
http://soundcloud.com/bleeky/r-s-d
or this?
http://soundcloud.com/raffertie/ergo-we-are-human-1
Sure, you can shoehorn them into house or techno, but that doesn't really do it justice. And having a 'misc' genre like 'electronica' is cheating. Electronica is a word invented and used by music journalists as a substitute for a proper understanding of the culture. And don't even think about including IDM or you will lose all credibility ;)
Otherwise, great work!
Specifically, it's the `background-attachment: fixed` that's killing performance here.
Unfortunately, those podcasts don't appear to be linked from the original site anymore, but here are the track listings for all of the Club Autonomic layers http://clubautonomic.wordpress.com/
But, if you go to their official soundcloud account http://soundcloud.com/club-autonomic-com , you can see at the very bottom that there are the first two layers.
Hope that helps!
Which reminds me, I'm off to Nectarine.
http://www.scenemusic.net/demovibes/
Also, you broke the back button.
The frontpage is rather mysterious, though, I agree.
I just don't want to connect sites together. Would much rather create a separate account at each website like the good old days. Puzzles me why new sites are cannibalizing their potential like this because I can't be alone in this thinking.
Edit: Just discovered the associated playlist chat-room.. nevermind.
Mind you, that also means there's no good reason to require a Twitter account. Sure there's the excuse of authenticating to the chat system, but this doesn't really need chat in order to work.