The original title of the article is "The Dev Behind One Of The World's Best SNES Emulators Has Reportedly Passed Away", it looks like the submitter changed the title because the permalink matches the title.
> “Near took their own life”. That’s how a news article would phrase it. Suicide is a voluntary action, a problem with oneself. Implying nobody is to blame but the victim and perpetrator, one and the same.
> Near did not commit suicide. Near was murdered. Victim of a lifetime of harassment. After an abusive childhood, and followed by community toxicity, Near was eventually targeted by Kiwi Farms.
This was not a passive act. This was not a mental health issue. This was murder, premeditated, and with utter and complete indifference to human life, by a site that is widely known and supported by some of the largest corporations in tech.
Cloudflare still provides services to KF despite repeated requests and reports as recently as December of last year. Despite occasional promises to the contrary, search engines like Google and DDG continue to allow them to googlebomb people's names and pollute search results with slander.
This is a site that delights in murdering people for sport, and jokes about "kill counts" whenever one of their victims finally succumbs to their relentless abuse and harassment. Its members deliberately targeted them with endless abuse, tracked down and doxxed family and friends, and even similarly attempted to bomb them with suicidebait themselves, all to completely isolate them from any support or help and make them terrified not just for their own life, but that of those who cared for them.
"A Twitter user published a Google Doc explicitly blaming the Kiwi Farms for harassing Byuu. No evidence of this harassment exists.
Byuu had a 13 page thread on the forum. Byuu participated in this thread. You can read the thread in archives here. 13 pages on the Kiwi Farms is an extremely small amount of discussion, especially for a thread as old as Byuu's.
Last year, Byuu said in this thread directly that he was not affected by the thread in any way. You can read the archive here and here.
The document claims that Byuu took his own life. No evidence of this exists. The person claiming to know he has died refuses to elaborate or provide evidence.
The last call with Byuu described in the accusation does not make sense. Consider that this person is supposedly an real life friend of Byuu (when Byuu also claims he had no real life friends), and consider that he did nothing for half an hour, but could remember the call well enough to describe an obscure French metal song playing in the background.
This is a ridiculous story. It does not pass any level of scrutiny and is not told in a way that makes sense.
Byuu has a history of accusing people of stalking and harassing him.
He made a post on his forum (which has since been deleted) accusing a rival emulator developer named Squarepusher from Retroarch of doing the same. A copy of this post is here.
There is a claim that Byuu was 'doxed', then harassed in real life. This is also false.
Nobody knows who Byuu is. Even after years, nobody knows his last name. Nobody knows where he lives. Nobody knows where he works. He is completely anonymous and even now it is not possible to do a wellness check on him.
Byuu emailed me before posting his tweet chain. You can read it here.
In it, he attempted to exort me. Byuu claimed that if I did not delete all information about him on the forum, he would kill himself and blame me.
He offered me $120,000 cash. I saw this as a legally and morally dubious offer at best, entrapment at worst, so I declined.
He also offered me his services helping write software for the Kiwi Farms.
I told him I would have to consult an attorney regardless. He did not wait even 24 hours after his first email before closing communications and deciding to go through with his plan at 3am my time.
In his emails to me, he promised a trusted friend would deliver a scan of his passport on Twitter within 5 hours of him killing himself as proof. Two days later, we still do not have this passport scan or any evidence he has killed himself besides the testimony of a Twitter user, citing an anoynmous third party.
The Kiwi Farms is an entertainment site. It exists to talk about people.
The site does not exist to punish people. It's not a Jigsaw-esque torture chamber to teach people the value of life. It's Internet nerds gossiping about their favorite e-celebs.
In the 8 years we've been around, Byuu is the first person to name the Kiwi Farms as a cause of suicide, despite claiming not even a year ago he had no issues with his forum thread.
His intentions are clear, but nothing else about this story is. If he was going to have to abandon the 'Byuu' persona and disappear anyways, why not pull this stunt?
The article doesn't go in to depth and "They had mental issues" doesn't cut it.
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-2, down-votes for what exactly? Linking to a previous discussion of the same news about the same thing that has been on the front page three times in a row?
But I'm not trying to score points over someones death. Where did you see that assumption?
I'm linking to other discussions. It's tragic, but the real reason is he was bullied by an online forum. The other discussions, it's been all over HN for the past day or two.
Why would I try to score karma and where you get that assumption from? I must be mentally blind.
The threads I've posted explains where the case goes in to deeper discussion of how the forum KiwiFarm has been pinning him for years. Encouraging him to commit suicide.
The same news/discussion that's been over HN all day.
When will people start to use the correct language when talking about suicide.
The submitter even editorialised the title to include "Has Taken Their Own Life" when the original reads "Reportedly Passed Away".
Leave it to people to frame suicide as something one very actively does to oneself - like they themselves are the only one responsible. And then they wonder why such wordings act as triggers to other people.
At-least it's nice that they didn't include any graphic details.
Suicide is caused by mental illness, or your circumstances, and its execution is a deliberate decision, one they likely contemplated several times before.
That said, it seems like the deciding circumstance in this case was a mob of relentless internet and real life harassers. Their enablers should definitely face some consequences, and their means of harassing should be severed as much as possible.
Watch everyone whip themselves into a frenzy over the mean things said on the internet instead of the far more lethal scourge of transsexualism and associated spiritual decline.
There are vulnerable men among us. Convincing them to embrace ludicrous personas and appearances, engage in soul-crushing sexual degeneracy that comes to define their entire identity, and even self-mutilate - all often in very public ways - is sadistic and cruel.
I would urge anyone who advocates this trend to have a look in the mirror before condemning anyone else for the astonishingly high suicide rates among people brainwashed into pursuing this lifestyle.
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> Near did not commit suicide. Near was murdered. Victim of a lifetime of harassment. After an abusive childhood, and followed by community toxicity, Near was eventually targeted by Kiwi Farms.
From a statement by the friend who was on the line for his last moments. https://docs.google.com/document/d/12pOhaaFh998B0kyc5Sm4Ihlh...
This was not a passive act. This was not a mental health issue. This was murder, premeditated, and with utter and complete indifference to human life, by a site that is widely known and supported by some of the largest corporations in tech.
Cloudflare still provides services to KF despite repeated requests and reports as recently as December of last year. Despite occasional promises to the contrary, search engines like Google and DDG continue to allow them to googlebomb people's names and pollute search results with slander.
This is a site that delights in murdering people for sport, and jokes about "kill counts" whenever one of their victims finally succumbs to their relentless abuse and harassment. Its members deliberately targeted them with endless abuse, tracked down and doxxed family and friends, and even similarly attempted to bomb them with suicidebait themselves, all to completely isolate them from any support or help and make them terrified not just for their own life, but that of those who cared for them.
"A Twitter user published a Google Doc explicitly blaming the Kiwi Farms for harassing Byuu. No evidence of this harassment exists.
Byuu had a 13 page thread on the forum. Byuu participated in this thread. You can read the thread in archives here. 13 pages on the Kiwi Farms is an extremely small amount of discussion, especially for a thread as old as Byuu's.
Last year, Byuu said in this thread directly that he was not affected by the thread in any way. You can read the archive here and here.
The document claims that Byuu took his own life. No evidence of this exists. The person claiming to know he has died refuses to elaborate or provide evidence.
The last call with Byuu described in the accusation does not make sense. Consider that this person is supposedly an real life friend of Byuu (when Byuu also claims he had no real life friends), and consider that he did nothing for half an hour, but could remember the call well enough to describe an obscure French metal song playing in the background.
This is a ridiculous story. It does not pass any level of scrutiny and is not told in a way that makes sense.
Byuu has a history of accusing people of stalking and harassing him.
He made a post on his forum (which has since been deleted) accusing a rival emulator developer named Squarepusher from Retroarch of doing the same. A copy of this post is here.
There is a claim that Byuu was 'doxed', then harassed in real life. This is also false.
Nobody knows who Byuu is. Even after years, nobody knows his last name. Nobody knows where he lives. Nobody knows where he works. He is completely anonymous and even now it is not possible to do a wellness check on him.
Byuu emailed me before posting his tweet chain. You can read it here.
In it, he attempted to exort me. Byuu claimed that if I did not delete all information about him on the forum, he would kill himself and blame me.
He offered me $120,000 cash. I saw this as a legally and morally dubious offer at best, entrapment at worst, so I declined.
He also offered me his services helping write software for the Kiwi Farms.
I told him I would have to consult an attorney regardless. He did not wait even 24 hours after his first email before closing communications and deciding to go through with his plan at 3am my time.
In his emails to me, he promised a trusted friend would deliver a scan of his passport on Twitter within 5 hours of him killing himself as proof. Two days later, we still do not have this passport scan or any evidence he has killed himself besides the testimony of a Twitter user, citing an anoynmous third party.
The Kiwi Farms is an entertainment site. It exists to talk about people.
The site does not exist to punish people. It's not a Jigsaw-esque torture chamber to teach people the value of life. It's Internet nerds gossiping about their favorite e-celebs.
In the 8 years we've been around, Byuu is the first person to name the Kiwi Farms as a cause of suicide, despite claiming not even a year ago he had no issues with his forum thread.
His intentions are clear, but nothing else about this story is. If he was going to have to abandon the 'Byuu' persona and disappear anyways, why not pull this stunt?
I will not be extorted. Josh <josh@jaw.sh>"
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27652814
The article doesn't go in to depth and "They had mental issues" doesn't cut it.
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-2, down-votes for what exactly? Linking to a previous discussion of the same news about the same thing that has been on the front page three times in a row?
I'm linking to other discussions. It's tragic, but the real reason is he was bullied by an online forum. The other discussions, it's been all over HN for the past day or two.
The threads I've posted explains where the case goes in to deeper discussion of how the forum KiwiFarm has been pinning him for years. Encouraging him to commit suicide.
The same news/discussion that's been over HN all day.
EDIT: not quite, here is my favourite: https://web.archive.org/web/20210111213509/https://byuu.net/...
Leave it to people to frame suicide as something one very actively does to oneself - like they themselves are the only one responsible. And then they wonder why such wordings act as triggers to other people.
At-least it's nice that they didn't include any graphic details.
That said, it seems like the deciding circumstance in this case was a mob of relentless internet and real life harassers. Their enablers should definitely face some consequences, and their means of harassing should be severed as much as possible.
There are vulnerable men among us. Convincing them to embrace ludicrous personas and appearances, engage in soul-crushing sexual degeneracy that comes to define their entire identity, and even self-mutilate - all often in very public ways - is sadistic and cruel.
I would urge anyone who advocates this trend to have a look in the mirror before condemning anyone else for the astonishingly high suicide rates among people brainwashed into pursuing this lifestyle.