Remarkably, after the recordings that preceded the illnesses were found to be crickets, everyone stopped reporting the cricket noise before the illness. Now, the American diplomats in Vienna report a new noise, a ringing in their ears, which apparently is not recorded.
"While the equipment we used in our Cuban re-creation is relatively bulky, ultrasonic emitters can be quite tiny, no larger than a piece of Rolo candy. Online, we found a manufacturer in Russia that sells a fashionable leather clutch that conceals an ultrasonic emitter, presumably to jam recording devices at cocktail parties. We also found electronics stores that carry high- power ultrasonic jammers that cause microphones to malfunction. One advertised jammer emits 120-dB ultrasonic interference at a distance of 1 meter. That’s like standing next to a chainsaw. If a signal from that caliber jammer were to combine with a second ultrasonic source, audible by-products could result."
Consider an countermeasure ultrasonic emitter intended to jam microphones in proximity to, say, a spy emitter using ultrasonic sound as a carrier wave for a microphone, as described in the article.
Outrageous assertion. No doubt you cannot wait for world - coming soon - where a progressive & peaceful CCP influences if not governs most global policy. How deep is your head buried in sand that you don't appreciate the danger of a unipolar world led by the CCP?
The common denominator here seems to be that it happens in secure US Government buildings. I have to wonder whether it’s related to the security technology itself, like some noise cancellation tech incorporated into the standard SCIF security system interferes badly with the ultrasound sensors of the intruder alarms to create these noise artifacts…
> Just curious, why is this comment being heavily downvoted? edit: why was, since it's now back up
Some people weirdly seem to be really, really invested in "Havana syndrome" being psychosomatic/mass hysteria/US footgun/anything besides a deliberate attack.
It does seem likely that the sound being recorded was crickets. However, that doesn't really prove that sound of crickets was the thing causing problems if it's being replicated in washington.
I think any article that starts from the premise that it was a sonic weapon is so deep into the land of speculation that I'd be shocked if they didn't contradict each other.
Kinda like asking why every bigfoot sighting is different from others.
What's the difference between "reverse engineering" and speculation in this case? It's widely debated whether any device intentionally caused these symptoms. The article doesn't shed any light on this.
I guess I assumed reverse engineering was understood to mean explaining how a phenomenon actually occurred. They've recreated a similar outcome, but haven't given any evidence that it's related to what happened in Cuba.
If I look at a hole in the wall and recreate it by pounding my fist through the wall to create another hole, did I reverse engineer the first hole? Or did I just reproduce the effect?
I thought it was microwave-type weapons that people claimed were being used against them. Now its sound? I'm confused, are these the same events or different?
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[ 2.5 ms ] story [ 99.5 ms ] thread[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/04/science/sonic-attack-cuba...
[2] https://gimletmedia.com/shows/science-vs/76hgkmv/havana-synd...
Similar example, the Pokemon Panic of 1997: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Radford#Pok%C3%A9mon_...
A few legit cases of seizure triggered thousands of "false" cases.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/29/us-investigating-peculiar-at...
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/29/politics/us-investigating-mys...
I think it's looking more and more like an actual attack.
"While the equipment we used in our Cuban re-creation is relatively bulky, ultrasonic emitters can be quite tiny, no larger than a piece of Rolo candy. Online, we found a manufacturer in Russia that sells a fashionable leather clutch that conceals an ultrasonic emitter, presumably to jam recording devices at cocktail parties. We also found electronics stores that carry high- power ultrasonic jammers that cause microphones to malfunction. One advertised jammer emits 120-dB ultrasonic interference at a distance of 1 meter. That’s like standing next to a chainsaw. If a signal from that caliber jammer were to combine with a second ultrasonic source, audible by-products could result."
Consider an countermeasure ultrasonic emitter intended to jam microphones in proximity to, say, a spy emitter using ultrasonic sound as a carrier wave for a microphone, as described in the article.
Much more plausibly, people in the US military and/or secret services are trying to invent trouble in the wake of recent relative peace.
Huh? January 6th was only ~6 months ago and the fall out from that continues.
Cyberwarfare continues to ramp up.
[1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/05/brood-x-cica...
> We also found electronics stores that carry high- power ultrasonic jammers that cause microphones to malfunction
Some people weirdly seem to be really, really invested in "Havana syndrome" being psychosomatic/mass hysteria/US footgun/anything besides a deliberate attack.
quit, it is embarrassing
Kinda like asking why every bigfoot sighting is different from others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-time_analyzer
Previous thread about the use of these for debugging mystery sounds that not everyone can hear:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14981088
A good microphone circuit, designed for humans, will have a filter to limit its sensitivity to the audible range.
For measurements that include ultrasonic frequencies, specialized equipment is needed, since much higher sample rates are required.
If I look at a hole in the wall and recreate it by pounding my fist through the wall to create another hole, did I reverse engineer the first hole? Or did I just reproduce the effect?
"Havana Syndrome Task Force to Be Led by Veteran of Hunt for Bin Laden
CIA Director Burns turns to undercover agency veteran to track down cause of health incidents suffered by U.S. spies and diplomats"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/havana-syndrome-task-force-to-b... (https://archive.is/HlDZF) (July 21, 2021)
hanlon's razor!
the issue with that was that the development of these weapons started in iran in the 80's
they're not a secret
and they can pilot people
the issue with that was that the development of these weapons started in iran in the 80's
they're not a secret, and they have a lot of capabilities that people should not be messing with
i will kill them all