As someone who have very little faith that Arab countries and people can co-exist with other cultures or religions, i think Israel should pursue peace.
If that means giving up some or all settlements in the West Bank, then so be it.
But if I had to choose between Arabs or Israelis, then I'd choose the latter every time.
Sorry to say that Arab culture and religion is just not very compatible with other cultures and religions.
The Republic of Turkey seems to meet the same levels of democratic dysfunction as usa, and uk. In many ways, better.
In comparison, Turkey never executed women for demanding the right to vote.
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None of the above varies by religion or any other identity group. It's common for people with strong affiliations with one group or another to claim that the mods are against them, but we aren't. This is simply how cognitive bias works on the internet. I've posted ad nauseum about this for years, if anyone wants more:
Israel is a product of the British Empire and later the American Empire. Judging by the history of the past 100 years, Brits, Americans and Israelis aren't known for getting along well with others either.
It's a failure of human nature, power politics and colonialism, not of one particular culture.
A comment a teacher made about Orwell and the British Empire sticks with me. Orwell didn't like what the British people would have to become to keep it.
Bonus with Israel, what they are trying to keep is economically and geopolitically worthless.
Not geopolitically worthless. All three abrahamist cults want it and historically have killed 10s of millions of people fighting over it.
There is political value in having something you can use to control the sheep.
Most of Israel’s modern power comes from the “evangelical” sub cult of christianity. They’re utterly terrifying in their fanatacism. Think ISIS but mostly white christians and they murder with politicians instead of suicide bombers.
I agree. Especially the Jewish arabs. No interest whatsoever in getting along with muslims.
Oh wait that’s not what you mean? By Arab you meant Muslim, be honest.
And if you think Israelis have always tried to get along swimmingly with all other people,go read about Moses commiting genocide in Medina, slaughtering everything but thw virgins who were enslaved and gifted as spoils of war.
Yes, biblical references are relevant since israelis use their silly mythologies to justify their thefts in other countries and their genocide in palesatine.
Bullshit. There are tons of Jewish arabs. You just hate Muslims, just as the Israelis do.
Israeli’s dont want peace. They view non jews as lesser people. “Less special” they will delicately say.
They want meshiak times to come so they can enslave all non jews under the kingdom of david.
Jews arent exactly historically easy to get along with. Their whole victim story is:
“We moved in. We setup banks. We profitee hugely off of a local community without becoming part of it in any meaningful way. Eventually they got tired of this and chased us out. Clearly it was because of our religion and not because of our parasitic behavior.”
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[ 2.9 ms ] story [ 54.0 ms ] threadIf that means giving up some or all settlements in the West Bank, then so be it.
But if I had to choose between Arabs or Israelis, then I'd choose the latter every time.
Sorry to say that Arab culture and religion is just not very compatible with other cultures and religions.
Both have a muslim majority but only Senegal is able to uphold democracy.
But you are welcome to present counter-claims.
The Republic of Turkey seems to meet the same levels of democratic dysfunction as usa, and uk. In many ways, better. In comparison, Turkey never executed women for demanding the right to vote.
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None of the above varies by religion or any other identity group. It's common for people with strong affiliations with one group or another to claim that the mods are against them, but we aren't. This is simply how cognitive bias works on the internet. I've posted ad nauseum about this for years, if anyone wants more:
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
It's a failure of human nature, power politics and colonialism, not of one particular culture.
Bonus with Israel, what they are trying to keep is economically and geopolitically worthless.
There is political value in having something you can use to control the sheep.
Most of Israel’s modern power comes from the “evangelical” sub cult of christianity. They’re utterly terrifying in their fanatacism. Think ISIS but mostly white christians and they murder with politicians instead of suicide bombers.
https://youtu.be/Fo77sTGpngQ
Oh wait that’s not what you mean? By Arab you meant Muslim, be honest.
And if you think Israelis have always tried to get along swimmingly with all other people,go read about Moses commiting genocide in Medina, slaughtering everything but thw virgins who were enslaved and gifted as spoils of war.
Yes, biblical references are relevant since israelis use their silly mythologies to justify their thefts in other countries and their genocide in palesatine.
It's Arabs as in the people who would be a muslim majority in Palestine.
And Israelis as in Jews that are the majority in Israel.
And i know full well that Israelis have committed horrible acts in the past, but so has most countries around the world in the past.
But the real goal here is a lasting peace for Israel and Palestine, to do that Israel has to make some hard choices if they really want peace.
Israeli’s dont want peace. They view non jews as lesser people. “Less special” they will delicately say.
They want meshiak times to come so they can enslave all non jews under the kingdom of david.
Jews arent exactly historically easy to get along with. Their whole victim story is:
“We moved in. We setup banks. We profitee hugely off of a local community without becoming part of it in any meaningful way. Eventually they got tired of this and chased us out. Clearly it was because of our religion and not because of our parasitic behavior.”
Religion is poison.
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