The going rate in my area is only about 10-20% higher than what I've been making working from home the past few years. That's not close to enough to make me consider onsite.
Recently, the situation is even more interesting: remote work has exploded, and now there are at least a few companies willing to pay me 300% or more of what I'm making now, to keep working from home.
Obviously, I'm not complaining. I can't help but wonder, though, what all the people who prefer being in the office are going to do.
… I’m not sure why this is news anymore? People want to be able to work from home. Some people don’t, but some do, and consider it a prime benefit.
Giving up voting to work from home is really the weirdest part of the poll; that upwards of 40% of Gen-Z surveyed would be willing to give up voting to work from home is a hell of a thing. Boomers were the most reluctant at _27%_.
I’m hoping more companies realize they need to offer WFM to be competitive, and as a result more company culture gets better at hybrid communication, and moves to a sync.
I wonder the mental health aspects of this trend. I’m just an observer not a scientist but it seems to me that more and more people including myself feel lonely. It leads to depression and anxiety.
I really think we are steering ourselves into some weird evolution by deciding to go go so reclusive. People need to gather and understand each other not go into remote silos surrounded only by family and super close friends.
I really liked the office environment because at least I got to be around people working on the same mission. Still a bit too uneasy to go back into the office though because of other reasons.
> I really think we are steering ourselves into some weird evolution by deciding to go go so reclusive. People need to gather and understand each other not go into remote silos surrounded only by family and super close friends.
It's important to remember that relationships at work are artificial, meaning that they just exist because that's how our society is organized at the moment. In other ages, we would have mostly interacted with our family and friends, taking care of our kids and kids from other families/friends from our village or community.
I think that the way we live at the moment (working at the office) is not natural at all. We spend the whole day with people we barely know, and that the relationship is built on top of a working agreement. It can easily happen that you are surrounded by lots of people, and still be/feel lonely.
It’s important to note that we’ve been working-from-pandemic, not quite working-from-home. In a normal WFH, you could go to a coffee shop, or a co-working space, and get more of the casual social encounters humans need.
I agree with the idea that we’ve removed a lot of casual social encounters (in much of the US), and as a result a lot of folk don’t get to meet new people outside of work. I’m hoping we get back to more third-places, ideally without needing to spend large amounts of money to be out with new people.
Co-housing, integrated walkable city planning, and reinvestment in public programs would all help with this. I hope we get back there.
Before this major shift happened I was willing to accept a significant cut for my current job for the sake of working with good people with flexibility. It happened somewhat by accident, but as soon as the opportunity arose I jumped on it and haven’t looked back.
I suppose my take home is around $70k CAD less than if I’d taken another job, and around $30k CAD less than what I had before. And I’m glad.
My family needs me more than my job does. We need money less than we need to be happy. I still earn more than we need, so we’re incredibly fortunate.
I understand completely and with no surprise at all that other people want this. The ability to work and live more on your own terms is a sort of empowerment and a luxury all people deserve but few ever get. It has allowed me to work on mine and my family’s well being in ways I haven’t been able to for a long time. I suspect a lot of people feel the same.
It's completely ridiculous to take a cut for that. One should get a raise for it. Office space costs money. Where there is no need for office space, a lot of money is being saved.
I'm happy to see remote/in office added as a normal part of the description of jobs. The normalization of remote work (or a return to cottage industry, if you think really long term) might undo some of the societal damage of the industrial revolution.
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[ 3.6 ms ] story [ 60.2 ms ] threadRecently, the situation is even more interesting: remote work has exploded, and now there are at least a few companies willing to pay me 300% or more of what I'm making now, to keep working from home.
Obviously, I'm not complaining. I can't help but wonder, though, what all the people who prefer being in the office are going to do.
Giving up voting to work from home is really the weirdest part of the poll; that upwards of 40% of Gen-Z surveyed would be willing to give up voting to work from home is a hell of a thing. Boomers were the most reluctant at _27%_.
I’m hoping more companies realize they need to offer WFM to be competitive, and as a result more company culture gets better at hybrid communication, and moves to a sync.
I really think we are steering ourselves into some weird evolution by deciding to go go so reclusive. People need to gather and understand each other not go into remote silos surrounded only by family and super close friends.
I really liked the office environment because at least I got to be around people working on the same mission. Still a bit too uneasy to go back into the office though because of other reasons.
It's important to remember that relationships at work are artificial, meaning that they just exist because that's how our society is organized at the moment. In other ages, we would have mostly interacted with our family and friends, taking care of our kids and kids from other families/friends from our village or community.
I think that the way we live at the moment (working at the office) is not natural at all. We spend the whole day with people we barely know, and that the relationship is built on top of a working agreement. It can easily happen that you are surrounded by lots of people, and still be/feel lonely.
I agree with the idea that we’ve removed a lot of casual social encounters (in much of the US), and as a result a lot of folk don’t get to meet new people outside of work. I’m hoping we get back to more third-places, ideally without needing to spend large amounts of money to be out with new people.
Co-housing, integrated walkable city planning, and reinvestment in public programs would all help with this. I hope we get back there.
I suppose my take home is around $70k CAD less than if I’d taken another job, and around $30k CAD less than what I had before. And I’m glad.
My family needs me more than my job does. We need money less than we need to be happy. I still earn more than we need, so we’re incredibly fortunate.
I understand completely and with no surprise at all that other people want this. The ability to work and live more on your own terms is a sort of empowerment and a luxury all people deserve but few ever get. It has allowed me to work on mine and my family’s well being in ways I haven’t been able to for a long time. I suspect a lot of people feel the same.
UBI here we come!
And seeing my young children develop, being there for all the moments I used to just see in photos with my other kids.
Energy in the evenings because I didn’t kill time in traffic.
Never going back.
Online surveys are notoriously problematic (can‘t say more on this one since it is protected by Cloudflare thinks my iphone is attacking the company).
In general we are poised to go through a bout or even prolonged period of inflation so giving up salary may not be a good idea at the moment.