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Flagging and suppressing reasonable people open to conversation is not an open culture, or helpful

fyi HN

If you are offended, then the offense is yours to deal with and learn how to cope with. Flagging and hiding such things might make you feel better, but it does not improve you or the people who ask those questions you dislike

Otherwise should i ask for your views on censorship, you who censor?

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[dead] tsegratis
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In reply to @kalu whose recent thread is flagged and dead, so i cannot respond to them even though they clearly have intellectual curiosity, and a response might be helpful:

Colonialism could be taken to imply the Mongolians taking Rome; the Romans taking Europe; Germany taking France; the Taliban taking Afghanistan

Which of those is good, in what way is it good?

Because of your example countries, i assume that you mostly mean Britain taking Australia, Canada, Uganda, etc

It is true, having lived in some of those countries, i know that many people have a positive view and are even thankful for that colonialism; and then alternatively Iran and HN :) takes an opposite view point

But i think it is easy to say colonialism itself is not what they value. Colonialism did not bring benefit. It is definitely bad. It implies entitlement not just to enslavement, but to enslave whole nations and continents. What brought benefit is that the colonalist at that time was less worse on average than some of what was there previously, and as you point out, also less worse than a few instances of what came after

What made that so? Surely not the enslavement/colonialism itself

What made it so, in any way less worse? I would suggest the philosophy of valuing people, of honesty, of considering looking for other people's benefit as more important than their own land grab -- a philosophy however deeply buried, was revolutionary, and still is, and i would suggest is becoming more so

-- So definitely not colonialism, but a mixed bag, with a faint spark of goodness, which you are right, we are desperate for

[dead] tsegratis
And im sure some would like to censor this viewpoint, but the G7 nations and leaders, what philosophy are they?

They are Christian. To love your enemy, to consider others benefits over your own, to be honest even when it disadvantages you. This kind of philosophy is what enables a nation to grow, and leaders to benefit their people rather than themselves

verdverm
This community does a good job of shutting down topics and threads which lead to flame wars and factors claims.

HN is a bit of an oasis in contemporary social media, though climate change has not left it unscathed.

Still, it is not surprising that the ask hn prompting others to disprove colonialism being good was rapidly shut down. It was seen as trying to stoke the flames in today's environment

dang
Would you please review the site guidelines at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and do a better job of sticking to them? HN is a particular kind of site, which requires a particular kind of usage. It's not the open internet. We're trying to play a specific game here.

If you don't want to play this game, that's fine—there are lots of other places on the internet to play other games. But if you're posting here, you need to play this game by this game's rules—for the same reason that in chess, you don't get to tackle the opponent's bishop.