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Counterpoint: one of the products I’m most fiercely loyal to (Pacifist.app) is an app I very seldom use. I use it to inspect macOS installers before running them. There aren’t many to run, definitely not very often. By usage metrics I’m basically a retention failure, except I keep coming back when I need it.

Don’t measure just for usage metrics. Measure for usage success and satisfaction.

Addiction != value.
Oh yeah, the well known sign of addiction: “seldom use”.
I think he was agreeing with you
He was.
Apologies for misunderstanding. I can’t edit or remove the comment now unfortunately, but if mods see this I hope they will.
The won't / can't. Though I believe this subthread is autocollapsed.

No harm, I did like your original comment, sympathize with the misunderstanding, and appreciate your apology.

The article covers annual use products or infrequent use products.
I mention in the section on ideal usage frequency how there are some great products that you’ll use rarely, like a christmas tree!
I had a client who had a usage frequency similar to AirBnB (one or two transactions a year) but then tried to cross-sell meal tickets (one or two transactions a week) because VCs were telling them users were not "using the app enough".

The meal ticket experiment turn out to be an expensive mistake - users never used the feature again after the promo period. From a retention perspective they didn't lose anyone, but the blended CAC for that quarter was horrible.

In hindsight, I think the practice of comparing retention between companies is doing more harm than good.

If your retention rate tells you you are providing a "one-off" service - that's OK. You just have to focus on being a cost-efficient service provider instead of splurging on CAC like everyone else.

I agree for one off services retention is useless!

I think airline sites are a good example of how to make the most out of one-off payments. Cross sell relevant things (like hotels, car rentals and insurance) so you can get more revenue from that one-off experience.

There’s even companies like Cartrawler that provide this as a service: https://www.cartrawler.com/

Author here, surprised to see this here! Thanks for sharing it. Happy to answer any questions
That was really good content. Surprised not to see more comments. Well done.
Thanks! Really happy it resonated with you :)
This article conflates retention of product use and retention of ongoing paying customers without being clear on which it is talking about at any point.

-You can measure how many users use your product for each period – which is usage retention

-You can also also measure how many users subscribes to your product on a continuing basis over X periods – which is paying subscriber retention

Without being clear about what is being talked about, the comparative % figures could be misleading. It also can change how you would evaluate the usefulness (or not) of a product to users.

Thanks for pointing that out! That’s a great point, will try and clarify in the post

The higher retention rates required for PMF of B2C subscription are because it’s retention of paid users

Same thing for B2B Saas, that’s target retention for paid users