The trip was paid for by one person, so it's a $220 million personal expense. For a 3-day trip, this has to be the biggest expense per unit of whatever by anyone, ever.
There isn't one because it isn't public. Maybe there are some numbers for how much SpaceX charges NASA but almost all missions involving the military or NASA cost more than civilian launches due to extra requirements. Especially so when they are not just ordered on an ad-hoc basis but instead are part of large contracts that include development funding.
I'd be shocked if SpaceX didn't treat this launch with all the care and preparation and expense of a manned NASA launch. Any issue with this launch would ground F9/Dragon and require full investigation the same as an issue with a NASA launch.
A whole industry bootstrapping itself to make semi-conductors doubling every 18 months, going from exotic, mission critical hardware to commodity; SpaceX is doing the same thing with flight hardware. Contrast that with previous generation engines (the RS-25 comes to mind) with a sticker price of 125 millions... per engine! [0] Meanwhile we're looking at ~60 millions per seat on this flight. Incredible.
The math is a bit different though, since that sum was propping up Roscosmos, which is a government org with opaque accounting and already had everything in place. By contrast, at whatever price Isaacman paid, SpaceX made a clear commercial profit.
Tito flew on Richard Garriott aka Lord British (Ultima series) ticket. Afair the original ticket was $5 mil, but dotcom boom forced Richard into liquidating assets. Space Adventures charged Tito extra.
At least they're in orbit, not just a suborbital fight.
Bezos spent 10 minutes in space. Why bother? Al Shepard did that in 1961. NASA did a second launch with Gus Grissom. Those were just tests before they tried orbiting. After that, nobody bothered again until 2004.
"Mr. Isaacman has declined to say how much he is paying for this orbital trip, only that it was less than the $200 million he hopes to raise for St. Jude Children’s Hospital with an accompanying fund-raising drive."
Is this some way to write the trip cost off as charitable deduction? Spend $50m sending self to space as 'advertising' and if you dont raise more via fund raiser its oh well we tried?
Edit: Thought it fair to add, this may well be a genuine attempt to raise money for a good cause with good intent. I'm a bit jaded from seeing people around offices spend money on expensive holidays and tying it to a cause where they raise fractions of what is spent on the holiday. My feeling is if they cared for the cause they'd skip 'hiking across country X' or whatever and donate the money while having a cheaper holiday elsewhere. So my bias is towards being a bit sceptical when it come to people trying to raise money for charity via expensive personal experiences.
This happens all the time. Throw a big charity fundraiser to raise your social profile and get a tax write off for it. Let someone else pay for the actual charity.
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[ 2.8 ms ] story [ 79.2 ms ] threadThat said, I’d like to live in your world where having an expendable $55 million per seat is merely rich.
$220M / (40000*50) = $110/Km. Still expensive, but at least we now have a number (a trip from NYC to Paris, first class cabin, is roughly $1/Km)
The Dragon however is more expensive then the rocket itself.
I would be shocked if it was less then $150M.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Adventures_Crew_Dragon_m...
A whole industry bootstrapping itself to make semi-conductors doubling every 18 months, going from exotic, mission critical hardware to commodity; SpaceX is doing the same thing with flight hardware. Contrast that with previous generation engines (the RS-25 comes to mind) with a sticker price of 125 millions... per engine! [0] Meanwhile we're looking at ~60 millions per seat on this flight. Incredible.
https://spacenews.com/aerojet-rocketdyne-defends-sls-engine-...
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/space-tourism-20-year-ann...
The math is a bit different though, since that sum was propping up Roscosmos, which is a government org with opaque accounting and already had everything in place. By contrast, at whatever price Isaacman paid, SpaceX made a clear commercial profit.
Since we're talking about stupidly rich people, Bezos makes more than that every day.
Bezos spent 10 minutes in space. Why bother? Al Shepard did that in 1961. NASA did a second launch with Gus Grissom. Those were just tests before they tried orbiting. After that, nobody bothered again until 2004.
Is this some way to write the trip cost off as charitable deduction? Spend $50m sending self to space as 'advertising' and if you dont raise more via fund raiser its oh well we tried?
Edit: Thought it fair to add, this may well be a genuine attempt to raise money for a good cause with good intent. I'm a bit jaded from seeing people around offices spend money on expensive holidays and tying it to a cause where they raise fractions of what is spent on the holiday. My feeling is if they cared for the cause they'd skip 'hiking across country X' or whatever and donate the money while having a cheaper holiday elsewhere. So my bias is towards being a bit sceptical when it come to people trying to raise money for charity via expensive personal experiences.