Poll: Which smartphone platform do you own and use mainly?

37 points by wallflower ↗ HN
Earlier this year, a MSFT advocate offered us a free WP7 smartphone if we would develop an app for their WP7 platform. We politely demurred as we thought the effort/possible download numbers didn't mesh. Not to mention, the headache we'd get (we're a small team) trying to context switch between Android, iOS, and WP7.

I've seen the numbers for smartphone usage, and I consider the News.YC community a forward-thinking, early-adopter crowd. What is the smartphone platform that you rely on a daily basis?

If you own multiple smartphone platforms, please only vote for the one you use the most.

If you don't use a smartphone, I'd be interested in why you do not use one - please comment.

If you chose WP7, please comment on why you chose WP7.

Choices from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone

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WP7. The design really grabbed me when I saw it. I like the way the live tiles function and the app selection is fine by me as I don't really go on the marketplace looking for a lot of apps. Even though i'm using a Mac for my desktop I really like the Zune/Zune Pass and it works well with the phone. The integration with social networks on the people hub is pretty nice and it will get better with Mango. With that said I am really looking forward to seeing the Pre3 and enhancements to WebOS.
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Obviously I do not belong to the "early-adopting crowd": I do not own a smartphone. Why? Because I find the 80 dollars per month too high price to pay for something(access to the internet) that I have almost everywhere I spent my time: work, home, bookstores. Even though I am seriously tempted everyday to get an iPhone.
you can have a smartphone without a data plan, just connect to wifi networks at your work, home, bookstores
Sprint won't let (me) use my Epic without a data plan.
At all these places I have a computer with me
I would be with you, but Virgin got me on their $25 / month unlimited data, 300 minutes plan. I hardly talk on my phone, but being able to tether from anywhere has been a big win.

Now I think they charge $35 / month for the same plan.

May I ask you, how is this possible?
Buy the LG Optimus V from Virgin Mobile. It's not super-powerful smartphone, but it does everything that I need it to and is only $150. Then get the $35 / month plan that goes with it.

To tether you only have to download the "Quick Settings" app from the Android market and turn on the wifi hotspot. I'm on the move a lot and have used this as my main internet connection for the last 3 months.

No contract, unlimited data, stop any time. The deal was too good to pass up.

I'm basically the same way with the added point that I don't really like talking on the phone. I'm not asocial - I'm just not a chatty guy.
I use an iPhone but, like zmonkeyz, I'll get a pre3 if the hardware turns out to be up to scratch. I tried 2 original Pre units but returned both because of hardware problems.
I have an Android phone and recently bought an iPad. After experiencing both platforms I think I'll be buying an iPhone 5 next.

If I we're going to do android again I'd get a phone where I could install stock android (like the Nexus S).

Oh also, I really hope WP7 doesn't take off. The new wave of smart phones run webkit almost exclusively right now and I'd like it to stay that way.

I still like the idea of an Android better than an iPhone, but the foot dragging of Samsung and Sprint to update the Epic makes me at least think of changing to iPhone, or another Android manufacturer, or another carrier. That's a mighty expensive chunk of plastic to be abandoned (as I assume Sprint/Samsung will, based on their non-enthusiastic update) after a year or two (again, assumption/prediction).
my understanding is that gingerbread will be released for the epic 4g. I'm not sure when, i've just seen a bunch of leaked builds on various android websites.

Gingerbread will probably be the last official release for the epic, but i assume a cyanogenmod port will be finished eventually.

"Gingerbread will probably be the last official release for the epic"

Anything connected to the internet needs regular updates to keep up with threats, never mind prettier icons. I got Windows XP updates for a long, long time.

I'm really rethinking the sensibility of an expensive smart phone for my world.

Just make sure it's on Cyanogen's list of supported devices. I love my MyTouch 4g that I bought for cheap on Craigslist. I'm running 2.3.4 with root access, tethering and zero crapware. And it's more stable than most manufacturer ROMs.
One reason I'll stick with iPhone is I get amazing customer service from Apple. I had an issue with the sleep button on my iPhone 4 and they replaced it free of charge and out of warranty. The button became mushy because of the case I was using. My gf broke her screen on a 3GS (her fault), and they replaced it no charge.

For my Nexus One, I had to deal with HTC support because the charging connection pins became loose and eventually broke (I might have pushed in the plug upside-down). It was still in warranty and they charged me $195 for the service. I didn't expect HTC to replace for free, but would have won them tons of points.

Do you need an extended warranty to get this level of support from Apple, or can you just walk into the store and demand that they fix it?
For my iPhone 4, I was a couple weeks out of warranty. Just make an appointment with the Genius Bar and be pleasant with them, never make demands.
> Oh also, I really hope WP7 doesn't take off. The new wave of smart phones run webkit almost exclusively right now and I'd like it to stay that way.

Why would you want there to be a single web browser engine in the mobile space?

I'm no fan of WP7 myself, but having a single web browser engine isn't a good thing. We need some diversity.

Don't use one. (Shouldn't this be one of the options as well?) (Disclaimer: I've also never owned one.)

Half of my reasoning is specific to the various platforms. I don't want to use an iPhone because of Apple's usual obsessively controlling policies. WP7 is probably not good at all (judging - I'll admit - mainly from its popularity). Blackberry and Symbian just aren't hip. Maemo/Meego is too hip. I've never even /heard/ of Bada. Android ... Android would be my choice, if I had to pick a platform - but I've played with several Android devices, and they feel slow. Laggy. With the better ones, it's not really noticable except as a slight feeling of discomfort. It's as though I'm fighting with the phone, just a little bit, to get it to do what I want. And it wrecks the experience. (IIRC iPhones were like this too a few years back. Some Android vendors will figure it out, eventually.)

The other half of reasoning is that I can't imagine what I would use it for. I hate reading on the small screen. I find 98% of all games incredibly boring (the other 2% are only mildly boring). I hate the idea of being constantly tied to the rest of the world via an electronic leash. I don't like cellphones! Pesky things, always buzzing at you when you're trying to get something done.... (I keep mine off most of the time.) Most importantly, everything I use my computer for involves either typing or fully exploiting every last square inch of real-estate my screen has. Smartphones are only good for consuming information, and at a slow rate at that.

You would be surprised at the elegance a smartphone adds to the things you already do. Think of fast forwarding a voice mail, or sending an email, or scrolling back through text messages, or typing in the name of your bank in an unknown city and having 5 close locations magically get pin pointed.
Main reason I have an iphone and would probably continue with them as long as they stay reasonably close to state of the art is that app eco system. Pretty much every company I see with develop for iphone first and then maybe Android later if they are successful enough. Despite not being the biggest user of apps I know if something new and interesting comes out I'll most likely be able to take advantage of that.
I find that while I like trying out apps, I only have a few that I actually end up using. So I have a cheap iPod touch for trying out apps and doing dev work, and then I use an Android phone daily.
WP7. I previously had an android and it just felt like a chinese iphone clone. This feels different and great.
BlackBerry - got started on the platform when I was given a series of them at Big Companies, and stay with them for the keyboard and BlackBerry Messenger.
I voted Android, which I used when cash flow was better, and I intend to go back when cash flow improves.

To answer your question as to why I don't [currently] use a smart phone, the phone plan plus data plan is not currently worth the opportunity cost for me. Currently using an old Palm Centro without a data plan.

I do miss my Epic.

I don't use a smartphone, just to save money.
I don't have a smartphone. I have a Samsung "feature phone." The only features I use are the phone, SMS, voicemail, contacts list, clock, and alarm clock. There are other features, but I never use them. It costs me $16.80 per month, including tax.

If I travelled more or worked away from home, I might find use for a smartphone.

I own an iPad and 3 iPhones, but I dont use one as my mobile phone. I use a stupid cheap heap of junk that works brilliantly to make and receive phone calls and text messages.

At the end of the day, all smart phones usually add is another distraction.

I have an iPhone because my family's company pays for it. If it didn't, I doubt I'd have a smartphone. We all got iPhones because we're using Macs (I started that trend with a PowerBook in 2004).
I don't currently own a smartphone, but I develop industrial Android apps for tablets.
I've been writing iPad apps for a while but considering testing the Android waters. I'd love to hear some of your thoughts on the Android tablet development experience now that 3.2 is out.
Galaxy Tablet + Eclipse and official JDK is what I use. Pretty streamlined. On Unix and Mac you don't even have to install the USB driver.

I really have no complaints; there is no live REPL, but you have the second best, code getting statically checked & compiled with every key stroke. Android docs are abundant, but after 2-3 months you get a feel for it.

I have written close to 12 apps by now. I believe we will one of the biggest Galaxy tablet roll outs in Australia, with 40-50 units distributed to our companies by year's end.

My experience might be skewed since we're not going through the official Marketplace channel, and also because we control all the devices (in fact, they're useless outside our VPN.) OTOH, we're using the API extensively. I found bugs in the Samsung hardware and there are things I can't get help for, do to the extreme rarity (and bleeding-edgeness) of what we're attempting.

Doesn't sound too bad. I've recently written a couple of trivial apps for my old Droid and so far it's been a lot easier than iOS. Too bad the emulator is so bad. I'm a little hesitant to sink $500 on an actual tablet just to explore.
You might consider the Nook Color. $250 gets you a very capable android device (it's an official CyanogenMod device), although it lacks some of the usual bells and whistles one might expect in the tablet space (front-facing camera, gyro, etc).

But for that price, it's a great buy.

Previous HN discussion of Nook Color + CM : http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2798050

I have a WP7. Owned an iPhone for 3 years then switched to Android last October. Switched to WP7 2 months later. Really, really enjoy my Samsung Focus. My biggest complaint with the phone is the browser font rendering can be pretty bad in portrait if the webpages are > ~800px wide, but supposedly the Mango update is going to be a big IE update so hopefully that gets fixed.
I'm a proud WebOS user, though I'm getting mildly jaded at the delays in the Pre3 and the fact that it's still not entirely clear if Sprint will have it. My (launch-weekend) Pre- is getting pretty old and tired, and I'm considering picking up a Nexus S if there isn't some more Pre3 news soon.
Pre 2 and Touchpad owner here. I, for one, am not waiting for Pre 3 because I am pretty happy with my Pre 2 as it is. And I have doubts whether HP cares about phones at all anyway.
iPhone: Frankly, originally purchased because that's what the c-level people at an old job had. But, beyond that I just want my phone to be simple - UX/UI, updates, etc. and I'm a sucker for great design.
Still like WebOS for pure UE. Now on a Nexus S and mostly happy except for atrocious battery life. Was on iPhone for a few months but couldn't stand the lack of multitasking and crappy notifications.
A relative recently purchased a Samsung WP7 phone. I was highly skeptical until I spent a few minutes playing around with it.

The UX experience (design, speed) was about as smooth as my iPhone, smoother than Android devices I've played with.

Right now there are not enough apps for WP7 to make it interesting to me, but if MSFT can get devs in large numbers to develop for the platform, then Apple will have to watch out. Historically, MSFT is good at making programmers develop for their platform, so the next couple of years should be interesting.

EDIT: The relative bought the WP7 device because it was much cheaper than an iPhone.

I also recently got Samsung Omnia on the cheap and it's pretty good. Hardware is awesome and the OS is super snappy. The only apps I'm missing now are not there because of API limitations (I'd like to see some VOIP) that's going to get hopefully fixed in September with Mango. Oh it would be also cool if Navionics ported their marine navigation app on WP7.

EDIT: The only annoying thing about it is how US-centric it is. I had to create a new live id with us location to be able to access marketplace and I don't really know whether I can develop for it when I'm not in US and I don't have a US credit card.

I don't think you need to be in the US to develop for WP7. It does support other countries. Look at Yalla Apps (http://www.yallaapps.com/) if you are in a country that is not supported.
Macs are nice now if you can spend someone else's money (like I did), but iOS policies are a direct threat to the independence of our profession, and I doubt anyone's ever going to pay me enough to hold my nose and contribute to that dystopia. Also not eager to get locked into an unmanaged language everyone else dismissed decades ago.

I've been meaning to get an Android from a vendor with a good attitude about CyanogenMod, but they keep announcing new models before I finish my homework on the current ones. My POS featurephone ("powered by Java ... please wait") is bearable for the moment.

>> iOS policies are a direct threat to the independence of our profession

And have also granted thousands entry into this profession by creating a few billion dollars in wealth.

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Blackberry gave me free sampleth
No other phone has feature parity with my four years old symbian phone. It has a physical Ctrl key for use in putty (sadly, no Meta).

But apart fron that, yeah, Nokia can't program their way out of a paper bag.

On my SGS (not II) I can use volume-down as a ctrl key in terminal emulator.
I have an iPhone4 and WP7. Switched completely to WP7. On the iPhone always looking for an app. On WP7 everything just works, hardly need any apps. There still needs to be a few things created, instagram for one. But most major apps there more will come.
Had an Android (1.6) for a year. After the initial excitement wore out (a week), I could barely answer a phone call since the interface bugged out everytime. The battery wouldn't last for a work day, and every app froze/crashed randomly (including contacts, phone app, and other system apps). The only good experience was MotoBlur syncing perfectly all my profiles, yet it's interface was just as crappy.

I already had a MBP and an iPod/iPad so wanted to balance things out and experiment with development. It was a terrible idea - I'm infinitely happy with my iPhone 4 now.

I think you'll find Android 2.2+ to be a very, very different experience from 1.6 - Google has really worked out many of the silly problems that you mentioned (that certainly plagued early versions of the platform, I agree) .
I prefer iOS, but I have android phones (G1 and Aria). The difference between 1.6 and 2.2 is huge. Bigger difference than iOS has seen (though iOS 5 is close)
I installed 2.1 in the last few months before giving up, battery improved but the rest didn't change. I've seen much better devices on 2.2+ (Atrix/Galaxy S/Defy) for sure, but I'm already a lost customer. The only system I'm willing to give a chance in the future is WebOS.