Reddit will only continue to harm it's own platform as they continue their uneven and inconsistent crackdown.
Maybe one day someone will make a social network that meets these people's criteria. Instead of a textbox you'll just have a radio button with the choice of "Meep." or "Meep!".
I used to be a libertarian capitalist in the previous decade. The amoral charlatans running various media houses converted me into a national populist.
One particularly nasty example from my "you evil fucks" folder.[1]
Headline designed to be shared on twitter and cater to the anti-gun mob:
> Man paralyzed by concealed carry holder in 2017 dies from injuries, police say
Last two paras of the story:
> Ford’s injury stemmed from a Dec. 12, 2017, shooting that began with the then-18-year-old pulling his own gun on a 27-year-old man driving his vehicle into a rear yard in the 9100 block of South Harper Avenue, according to Chicago police.
> The older man, a concealed carry holder, pulled his own firearm and shot the victim, police said. Ford was taken to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn for treatment and was later charged with felony aggravated unlawful use of a weapon and misdemeanor aggravated assault. But the case against Ford was dropped by Cook County prosecutors nine days after his first court hearing.
There are thousands and thousands of these if you go looking. Want to make the world a better place? Ban journalism.
Is it really outlinking if it's reddit's own image hosting service? Where is the data for the analysis discussed and why are all of the percentages expressed in ranges? Really shoddy stuff, even if I am sympathetic to the main point that hate speech is extremely hard to regulate.
I think she's trying to say that Reddit should ban or seriously curtail outlinking (links to content that's not hosted by Reddit) and step up censorship of content that's uploaded to Reddit.
But like you said, it's incredibly incoherent and hard to figure out exactly what the point is.
If you're correct about her intention, that whole premise is technically unfounded too. I'm sure reddit analyzes outlinks to understand users, so adding an additional step of scraping the content and banning any obvious hate speech seems technically feasible.
I assume it’s AI assisted content. Glib is an understatement. The two questions I came away with are 1- who is funding this useless NGO? 2- how on earth do you pronounce the author’s name. Is it B-AH-rbara? B-AY-rbara? That accent mark is killing me.
So is the argument is that users can't be trusted to use hyperlinks?
A scientific approach to explore some of the issues would be to try to measure how much racism occurs, to what extent that racism is having a real world impact, and the extent to which regulating speech more on Reddit would have a chilling effect on other speech. But instead the article takes for granted that Reddit doesn't censor its users enough. My impression of the article is it is ridiculously one-sided punditry containing very little evidence.
I don't have to read beyond the first paragraph to know that this'll be a rant about 'white supremacy' and how 'evil people I don't like shouldn't be allowed on the internet'.
Feh.
It's a real shame that Hacker News is polluted with these kinds of articles. You simply can't escape the insanity anymore.
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[ 3.5 ms ] story [ 46.5 ms ] threadThere's no such thing as hate speech, only free speech.
Maybe one day someone will make a social network that meets these people's criteria. Instead of a textbox you'll just have a radio button with the choice of "Meep." or "Meep!".
People figured out how to abuse the very simple chat emojis that Nintendo offered, or that came with Hearthstone.
One particularly nasty example from my "you evil fucks" folder.[1]
Headline designed to be shared on twitter and cater to the anti-gun mob:
> Man paralyzed by concealed carry holder in 2017 dies from injuries, police say
Last two paras of the story:
> Ford’s injury stemmed from a Dec. 12, 2017, shooting that began with the then-18-year-old pulling his own gun on a 27-year-old man driving his vehicle into a rear yard in the 9100 block of South Harper Avenue, according to Chicago police.
> The older man, a concealed carry holder, pulled his own firearm and shot the victim, police said. Ford was taken to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn for treatment and was later charged with felony aggravated unlawful use of a weapon and misdemeanor aggravated assault. But the case against Ford was dropped by Cook County prosecutors nine days after his first court hearing.
There are thousands and thousands of these if you go looking. Want to make the world a better place? Ban journalism.
[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20210623065433/https://www.chica...
Is it really outlinking if it's reddit's own image hosting service? Where is the data for the analysis discussed and why are all of the percentages expressed in ranges? Really shoddy stuff, even if I am sympathetic to the main point that hate speech is extremely hard to regulate.
But like you said, it's incredibly incoherent and hard to figure out exactly what the point is.
For memes hosted by reddit, OCR and moderate.
A scientific approach to explore some of the issues would be to try to measure how much racism occurs, to what extent that racism is having a real world impact, and the extent to which regulating speech more on Reddit would have a chilling effect on other speech. But instead the article takes for granted that Reddit doesn't censor its users enough. My impression of the article is it is ridiculously one-sided punditry containing very little evidence.
Feh.
It's a real shame that Hacker News is polluted with these kinds of articles. You simply can't escape the insanity anymore.