Ask HN: How do you memorize things you read?
— especially if they're technical you don't use them regularly at work?
For example, I don't work in finance (got the degree but my grades were abysmal), but I have a great deal of interest in the field, so I bought the CFA and CAIA curriculum. As I read it I grasp it and answer provided problems with no difficulty. But when I return to the material a few months later, I may as well re-read the whole thing for the amount of detail I've retained.
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[ 3.2 ms ] story [ 219 ms ] threadWhen I do cardio at the gym I take my tablet and read technical documentation, frequently over and over again. The goal of that is not so much to memorize facts, but to become familiar with the landscape and to become very quick to look details up when I have to look them up.
I've yet to see a question in a data science interview that can't be answered with: (1) Look it up in the hashtable or (2) Look it up in the literature.
If you do want to memorize it, then some form of flashcards with spaced repetition.
If you want to understand it, keep reading and dig deeper into the topics that interest you. Also for technical stuff work through some examples.
Take up as many relevant projects as needed to master the underlying theoretic aspects of whatever you're interested in, whether that's in math or programming. Don't get frustrated if you get stuck somewhere. You can always take a break and jump back to take a better look to any helpful readings to better understand some concept you may have missed earlier. Just make sure you're already pretty familiar with the very fundamentals first (e.g. don't expect good progress on a machine learning course without being already familiar with linear algebra - probability fundamentals.)
Aside from that, for me, it's more important to memorize where on the page I saw something, and where the book or page was located. Things like web pages may get saved because of their ephemeral quality. It's unrealistic to expect to retain everything, but knowing where to find non-critical knowledge is easier.
As for finance, eg. I'd try to read Economy mags more often, and try to explain to myself just "what the actual hell" they're saying.
This method can be very challenging when you're starting on something, but by the time (two weeks) you get to know "just enough" you'll be flying through the news, and then you can get to scientific papers on the subjects that you have interest on.
For programming, my way for it is exactly the same, but without newspapers and articles: just try to approach everything in a specific mindset.
Curious to read other people’s strategies here
This type of reading has forced me to re-think how I memorize or even check that I've understood something.
My current process is to stop at the end of a chapter and re-cap what I've learnt and id necessary check by reading in normal mode.
This is the only thing that really works for me.
What I have not automated is creating active recall scripts as I go....it tends to happen organically as I run through scenarios in practice sessions, eg if I want to share info verbally, then what parts do I forget, when I practice? Drill on that section, and test it out ant intervals until it's locked in. Then test at much wider intervals to maintain. (Super memo and Anki have complex algorithms, but I like to ballpark it to reduce complexity)
However, if it's something I do need to remember and can't look up, spaced repetition tools like Anki are helpful.
You should probably ask yourself whether it's worth the effort to memorize something that you only need every few months. So long as you have an understanding of the general topic, it's not hard to find technical specifics when you need them. Being able to reel off technical details from memory is a good party trick, but I've rarely found it to be useful in daily life.
I absolutely don't memorise things on purpose. I just use them, and try to remember where to look them up again.
Memorisation is a fancy tricky that doesn't gain you that much over knowing where to find the answer.
To that end, I'd instead recommend taking notes in a system that allows for full text search.
However, if you still want to memorize it, repetition will be your friend. Repeatedly reading the material will gain you familiarization with the concepts, and eventually the memorization. Spaced repetition (Anki et.al.) is the fastest, but simply reading regularly works too.
Memory, as i found out, works if you connect new knowledge to existing knowledge. Usually, when i read and understand something to the point of the "aha" moment is not sufficient. Just understanding something in that moment is not enough for storing in long term memory.
Here is the trick part: when i read and want to comprehend and memorise, i do the following:
It's not fast, but there are many processes involved here that get to long term memory: I know this works, because i have all the processes written by hand, in a notebook. Everything i explained here is a narrative that i constructed on the spot to explain my process. Keep in mind that this whole process of comprehension, memory, new knowledge and handwriting was new to me ±1 year ago.Not sure this helps you directly but indirectly it should be able to guide you into figuring out what works best in your context.
The point is that you can also retain facts if you can connect them to something else. The more link you have the easier it is to retain.
For terminology - this is tricky. Whenever i run into some new terms that i cannot explain into something else, but need to learn the term, i try to use it in written text as much as i can. But whenever i try to refer to it, i refer to it from the explanation - hoping it(brain) will bring me the term. If i use it a lot, it will get cemented.
Polar [0] is an interesting implementation of a similar concept: read and annotate and turn your highlights into Anki flashcards automatically.
[0]: https://getpolarized.io
There are analyses and processes (both software-based and relating to one's assessment of learning significance when deciding to add material) only possible with the priority queue implementation in SuperMemo.
[1]: https://supermemo.guru/wiki/Minimum_definition_of_incrementa...
Lots of integrations (kindle highlights, hypothes.is highlights on the web etc.), and they present your old highlights to you in the form of spaced repetition, either via email or via the smartphone app.
By rewriting the material, you are recoding it. You are forcing yourself to think about the information differently: what you are doing is explaining it to yourself. This to me is far more effective than something like highlighting, because in rewriting that material, you are also clarifying your understanding.
I also happen to use fountain pens for it, but I think that part is optional. :)
You can see it change rat brains:
> As people age, they lose neurons in the hippocampus, which decreases their ability to learn new information. Chronic THC exposure may hasten age-related loss of hippocampal neurons. In one study, rats exposed to THC every day for 8 months (approximately 30% of their lifespan) showed a level of nerve cell loss at 11 to 12 months of age that equaled that of unexposed animals twice their age.
It has measurable effects on human performance:
> Among nearly 4,000 young adults in the Coronary Artery Risk Development in Young Adults study tracked over a 25-year period until mid-adulthood, cumulative lifetime exposure to marijuana was associated with lower scores on a test of verbal memory but did not affect other cognitive abilities such as processing speed or executive function. The effect was sizable and significant even after eliminating those involved with current use and after adjusting for confounding factors such as demographic factors, other drug and alcohol use, and other psychiatric conditions such as depression.42
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/mari...
Never got a poor performance review for it, but that's a real issue I have.
This is what I do for most of my university courses. It's super not efficient time-wise, but my grades have been generally good thanks to it.
Plus if I have to write an essay about anything related I can just ctrl+f the material I've written so far and get my facts straight very quickly.
Speaking from experience. when I stopped using a third language and learned a fourth, the third is now almost gone, replaced by the new language that took its place while first and second languages that are in constant use were not affected.
Our memory is structured so that we forget things at an exponential rate (exp(-a t)). The better we remember things, the smaller the coefficient (a). You can look around for pictures of "forgetting curves" [1].
The idea is that for new knowledge, the coefficient (a) is large, so you need to refresh your memory sooner. As you retain the knowledge (the coefficient gets smaller), you can wait longer before you need to refresh your memory. The exact coefficient is going to be dependent on the person, the type of knowledge (for the person), the context in which it's learned etc. etc.
A simple way to do this without flash card applications is to try to recall the information you've learned periodically. Can you recall it after a day? A week? A month? If you can't, go back to the information and relearn it, and try again, making sure to do active recall to refresh your memory.
Another trick is to try to explain the knowledge you've learned to someone else, or pretend you're trying to explain it to someone else, if you don't want to subject your friends to it. Often times a "why" will come up or some piece of it will seem arbitrary that you won't be able to explain, which is a good signal that there's a concept you've missed and need to review to understand it more deeply.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaced_repetition
[1] https://elitemedicalprep.com/what-is-spaced-repetition-and-w...
https://www.gwern.net/Spaced-repetition
Any material which is worth knowing, but that will not become part of a routine (i.e coding patterns or structures that would be used everyday) which would enforce the learning through repetition will need to be reviewed/used/consumed at regular artificial interval instead.
I've had a personal wiki for years, and moved to Obsidian.md two years ago. Content that I find usefull or worth keeping is broken down and rewritten into my wiki.
Here it is important to note that simply copy pasting long form text from a source does not work as well as writing the content in your own style. Writing it down, and having to reason about the content as I am doing so helps me retain it for longer.
I then have a list of content that I review at regular intervals (weekly, monthly, quarterly, yearly, 3/5 years). These are simply links within my wiki.
The tricky part here is to not overload your future self. Sure I can write down pages and pages of information and just expect future me to consume it. But in reality I know there is a limit.
What I considered important to review at X interval last year, is perhaps not that important this year and so I lengthen the time between reviews (simply move the link).
And at some point the content is firmly embedded and does not need regular review.
1. Have a habit to review 10 flashcards in Readwise [0] every day 2. As I read, stash snippets of interesting things into Readwise 3. If there are bigger insights I want to digest, I take notes using Dendron [1] and link those insights into other things I'm studying
Eventually, I want to integrate my markdown notes in Dendron with Readwise so that it's easy to block out something I want to review with Readwise in my notes, and for that to automatically show up in Readwise.
[0] https://readwise.io [1] https://dendron.so
...its a mix between notes and spaced repetition