Ask HN: What is your preferred notebook screen size and why?
With the new MacBooks around the corner, I'm torn between the 13" and 15" (or more likely, 14" and 16") versions. All things besides size and weight equal, what notebook screen size do you prefer and why? Doesn't have to be MacBooks of course, I'm interested in all thoughts on this topic, especially from people who tried both.
I can't decide whether being on the move often is an argument for the smaller version (lighter), or the bigger one (more comfortable to work without an external monitor).
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[ 0.27 ms ] story [ 95.7 ms ] threadMy favourite laptop design of all time has been my macbook pro 2011. I never feel like it needs to be bigger, the keyboard feels natural and typing is easy, and it is portable.
I will be getting a Framework laptop soon, which has very similar proportions.
And yes, I miss the original MacBook “one”. 13” is the absolute maximum for portability if you have to carry your machine around on a daily/hourly basis, and smaller is better for me, so I really hope the 14” has the same effective footprint as the 13” model…
A lenovo T series, AMD, 16:10/3:2 14" laptop. Wow.
It's a 13.5 3:2 and I think I remember it being about as tall as my 15.6 16:9.
I had a 15" before this, and it's considerably more annoying to take with you. You might also be less flexible in terms of where you'll work from, e.g. if the table space is limited such as at coffee shops.
Resolution 1080p or higher, even though I feel that 4k for that screen size is a bit overkill.
Recently there is a flurry of golden ratio 16" laptops by most of manufacturers, and I think this display size is the Goldilocks of laptop screen size. Hopefully they can get them lightweight around 1 kg. No need for built-in discrete GPU as you can always use external GPU or eGPU as popularized recently by Asus [1].
[1] ROG XG Mobile External Graphic Dock:
https://rog.asus.com/external-graphic-docks/2021-rog-xg-mobi...
1440p at 27" = 100 DPI
I'd expect better text clarity on the 1080p laptop screen, whether you keep the same pixel size or adjust for similar physical size. The real tradeoff you're making is how much you can fit on screen.
It seems to my eyes that even with 10" devices with 1080p display, my six years old 27" display with 1440p is much better to work with than 1080p of the much smaller devices. I guess we need a more objective definition of Quality of Experience (QoE) for display quality to avoid being duped by the manufacturers.
I've seen several 16" laptops lately. I'm actually looking to buy an Inspiron 16 for my niece. 3k screen with or without dedicated GPU.
I’d suggest physically handling those measurements before deciding. Two inches (and the added weight) can make a big difference in portability.
My preference is the 13” or 14”, mainly because I can use the price differential between that and a similar spec for the 15” or 16” (which could be a few hundred dollars) to have better internals on the 13” or 14” (like 32GB RAM and/or a 2 TB SSD). Since the RAM and internal SSD are not upgradeable on MacBooks (of the past few years and the current ones) after purchase, think about how long you would use the laptop before buying another one and what spec would work better for future proofing it.
Though the Apple Silicon Macs of the past year have been very efficient and performant even with 8GB RAM, there have been many reports of heavy use of the SSD (swap space for virtual memory), leading to suspicions/predictions that the internal SSDs may wear out sooner. I’d be a lot more comfortable having more RAM with these new systems and enjoying the performance without too much of a compromise in the long run. SSD wear is also inversely proportional to the free space available. So the larger the drive is or the less of it that’s occupied, the better.
I have (2) AOC 15" USB monitors that I carry in my backpack and love them as well.
So, I have a nice rig (the Omen is a dope-as machine (dope ass-machine as well)) -- but I have (3) 15" screens that all fit in a backpack that weighs nothing...
https://www.amazon.com/AOC-I1659FWUX-USB-Powered-Portable-19...
These are fantastic
Right now that's Framework, Pixelbook, and Surfacebook. I'm tempted by mobile M1[X], but I'll be buying a Framework as soon as the non-Intel mainboards appear.
In my view if you are going to travel and use the laptop on a plane regularly, the 13-14” size is better. Otherwise the 16” is preferable.
This would give me a large display, large keyboard, more space to shove SSD.
But since these stuff adds weight and size, I currently prefer 14" because these are easier to move around
https://www.originpc.com/configurator/new-ns-17/?MID=GG_GOOG...
Desktop CPU and MXM GPU. Do you want one though? For so many things, a regular laptop is powerful enough already, especially nowadays.
I’ll never ever buy a laptop that does not have this aspect ratio again. 16:9 is rubbish.
When using a laptop as a ...laptop, portability is key. 13" is big enough to do work on the go.
The other thing I look for is centered keyboard without numpad. I can't stand laptops with the home row offset to the left because of the numpad.
Also, I'm having a solid laugh because I just realized Macbook Pros are like the only good universally sold using imperial units for its dimensions (at least according to what I'm seeing). There ain't no Macbook Pro ~35cm/~40cm coming out anywhere. Honestly, is that like... a little fucking weird for folks in other countries or is it just another drop in the bucket of weird crap from the USA?
If you’re lugging the laptop on a lengthy commute every day the I would say that speaks against having a heavier 15 inch. On the other hand if the work requires an external GPU and sustained CPU-bound workloads such that a robust cooling solution is necessary: then 13 inch is probably not a good choice.
I’m definitely not in the same camp as some “road warriors” that don’t use external peripherals though, so screen sizes really don’t matter much: for the work I do (webdev) you’re nuts if you don’t use external min 1440p screens. Also external ergo keyboards are a must in my book. Laptop keyboards are absolutely terrible for your wrists.
Acer chromebook spin 713 comes closest and I want it, and initially got it but returned it. I needed more power for a main machine, I got into video encoding and streaming so I have a 15.6" hp omen.