If it were up to me, I'd have the athletes wear uniforms that alternatively "Olympic games, presented by Xinjiang concentration camps!", "Olympic Games, presented by no idea how the Coronavirus started, because there has been no investigation allowed in China around it origins.", and "Olympic Games, don't complain if you get raped because you'll end up locked in your house like Peng Shuai."
Because the international olympic committee is quite possibly the most corrupt sporting organization on the planet, which is saying something when FIFA exists.
Well, we in the US have our own prison camps. They're less racist and more driven by profiteers who are modern slaveowners. It's the same thing, less on the nose.
I do get your point, but the massive difference is that you can make that statement in US without having to think about repercussions. Can't do that in China.
"At least muh free speech" that changes nothing seems like the go-to American exceptionalism excuse. Latest report coming out of XJ is the mass internment phase is over. So the massive difference is is PRC doesn't mass detain minorities for longer than political goals deem necessary. Yet Americans still can't seem free speech / vote away forever for profit prison industrial complex.
shouldn't there be guidance that no athelete that has ever made any kind of political statement on public or semi-public forums (facebook, twitter, tiktok, google plus) is unsafe?
country's state departments (or their equivalents) often give guidance to their citizens travelling abroad about what sorts of safety concerns they might face.
Edit: oh i just realized I wrote "unsafe", I meant "safe".
There's Charter rule 50 for politicization of uniforms. For which PRC athletes got warnings over in Tokyo for Mao pins. PRC will probably scrutinize thoroughly, and who knows which athlete's covid test turns positive and have to miss their event for 3 week quarantine
The US really needs to get its priorities in order first cause they could just wear shirts that mock America's slave labor prison system among many other things.
It would be easier to just boycott the Beijing olympics. Foreign athletes are probably going to spend two weeks in quarantine anyway, like it happened at the 2021 Australian Open hotel arrest.
I don't think it will have any sensible impact. I appreciate for taking steps.
What Covid showed is it's a small world. If a country is not transparent and messing with things they don't fully understand and may have global consequences then it's not acceptable.
I wish the world lives in peace and harmony instead of constantly trying to show who is the boss.
These are pointless gestures politicians like to make to win the news coverage of the day. To make a real dent, remove China from WTO third world country status so it doesn’t benefit from
all the unfair trades.
So, according to this [0] although China is recognized as a developing country by the WTO it does not benefit from all the advantages that it would entail.
That will just add fuel to the belt and road initiative (what a silly name). There's no reason to screw up trade between nations, unless if one wants to create a climate favouring war.
Recoognizing Taiwan would be an entirely different matter. Other states would follow suit. If the EU states and Japan would do it as well, then there's not much China can do about it except maybe start a war and attempt a Crimea style takeover, although it's not their style.
US launched a multi-decade war using fake and fabricated evidence in which millions of innocent people who had nothing to do with 9/11 have been slaughtered and exterminated. Perhaps the world should boycott events in the US.
No foreign spectators will be allowed. However there will be many non-athletes in attendance including coaches, referees, sports federation officials, journalists, etc.
I wonder about how well educated and how sharp thinking some people can be when reading the comments in this thread.
With many technical topics on HN the wisdom of the crowd prevails. Facts get checked, sources get cited.
But, with China all bets are off and all blinkers are on. Constructive dialogue goes out the window. Actual, indoctrinated xenophobia rears its ugly head.
Nobody on here should be dancing to the tune provided by politicians and the media. We all have the internet and thinking minds. Every one of those Olympic events has genuine fans who want to see the greatest performances by the greatest athletes currently alive. Why politicise this and spoil their enjoyment? What does that achieve?
Exactly. I find comment section of many articles on HN are informative or constructive. But whenever it comes to China politics, going through the comment section is being like "Huh not this again"
Usually when people discuss boycotts of international sporting events there is always a contingent that objects with that you shouldn't mix sports and politics or that sporting competitions "build bridges". It appears no one believes that anymore? Perhaps no ever did and merely used it to excuse the boycott's target? Personally, I think that you indeed should mix sports and politics and that repressive countries like China, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Eritrea, etc, should be boycotted. Their leaders care about international prestige and boycotts robs them of that. So this is a good move by the US. Though more consistency in who the US condemns for human rights violations would be nice.
I'd say necessary. People will assume (correctly) that this is human rights being used as a stalking horse for realpolitik. Which is frankly worse for human rights than no action at all.
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What Covid showed is it's a small world. If a country is not transparent and messing with things they don't fully understand and may have global consequences then it's not acceptable.
I wish the world lives in peace and harmony instead of constantly trying to show who is the boss.
[0] https://theconversation.com/myth-busted-chinas-status-as-a-d...
Recoognizing Taiwan would be an entirely different matter. Other states would follow suit. If the EU states and Japan would do it as well, then there's not much China can do about it except maybe start a war and attempt a Crimea style takeover, although it's not their style.
I think an entire generation of failed Chinese appeasement is enough — look at the damage it’s done to the American working and middle classes!
With many technical topics on HN the wisdom of the crowd prevails. Facts get checked, sources get cited.
But, with China all bets are off and all blinkers are on. Constructive dialogue goes out the window. Actual, indoctrinated xenophobia rears its ugly head.
Nobody on here should be dancing to the tune provided by politicians and the media. We all have the internet and thinking minds. Every one of those Olympic events has genuine fans who want to see the greatest performances by the greatest athletes currently alive. Why politicise this and spoil their enjoyment? What does that achieve?
The funny one was when China became the first to ban the Boeing 737 Max.
So many hate speech against China on this well educated community.... until the rest of the world followed China within days
I'd say necessary. People will assume (correctly) that this is human rights being used as a stalking horse for realpolitik. Which is frankly worse for human rights than no action at all.