I'm really disappointed that there's no midi of the X-Files theme playing the background.
For everything I built that never leaves my home network, I always use the HTML `marquee` tag somewhere, simply because I think it's funny and it's bizarrely still supported.
I love this! A large appeal of this kind of thing is unlocking possibilities outside of the Generic Website box, so making that dead obvious to people is a very straightforward demonstration of value.
> "The punk ethos is primarily made up of beliefs such as non-conformity, anti-authoritarianism, anti-corporatism, a do-it-yourself ethic, anti-consumerist, anti-corporate greed, direct action and not "selling out"."
That punk is treated as a serious artistic subject does not conflict with that. There's lots of other unprofessional subjects and motifs in art spaces, e.g., nudity.
> "The punk ethos is primarily made up of beliefs such as non-conformity, anti-authoritarianism, anti-corporatism, a do-it-yourself ethic, anti-consumerist, anti-corporate greed, direct action and not "selling out"."
Substitute "Punk" for e.g. "Group" and read that sentence again.
"Unprofessional" only makes sense in the context of some particular profession. Many English dictionary definitions even explicitly mention something like "the expectations of a particular profession." I'm pretty sure there still are professional standards for doing graphic design work for a punk art organization. And you wouldn’t say that a plumber is coveralls is dressing unprofessionally. The word “unprofessional” doesn’t just mean “anything that’s different than a stock photo of a banker.”
In this case, the context is software development, and we are discussing advertising/marketing/landing material on the sales website. The OP website dramatically departs from the expectations of this profession. The OP is not selling art.
Did I state it was bad? or did I imply it was poorly made? I think it is a very well thought out, and well implemented website. Professionality and quality used in same context is mutually exclusive.
You've misunderstood me. I'm saying your previous comment implied that someone else must think the website is poorly made when they call it unprofessional.
Quite a few examples of this aesthetic can be found on Brutalist Websites[0]. (Be forewarned, the Brutalist Websites site itself is brutal in a different way: it tries to load hundreds of high-res screenshots all at once.)
The copywriting is very fresh and to the point:
“ You can take the Hyundai Tucson abroad to any normal destination (usually excluding dodgy places like Albania, etc), but you should apply for a VE103 form from the finance company before you go, which proves to the damn foreign police that you have permission to use the car.”
> Note to Americans: the £ is like the $, except bigger
This is just perfect. I love this website so much. If I lived in the UK I would seriously consider buying from this website. So I guess this advertising works for me.
I'm kind of sad they minified their CSS and some of their JS. Sure minification saves some bytes, but I really wonder how much we really save assuming the server uses compression. I love being able to see how different sites work and minification makes that a lot harder.
That assaults you with a mix of garish colors and animations, but sections of sanity break through now and there.
The site for Yvette's Bridal Formal, sadly now gone but archived [1], lacks the animations, but doubles down on the color assault and doesn't interrupt it with any sanity for arguably more effective inflection of mental damage upon the viewer.
Mental illness in word usage and web design. Some of the words in there remind me of if a Terry A. Davis was untalented, and did web design instead of write compilers, langs, and OS'.
There's something very appealing to me about people who name their companies after themselves. Ling's cars, Prusa Research, Linus Media Group. Maybe I'm only remembering the good examples, but when you put yourself out there, it seems like there is a strong incentive to not fuck up your reputation.
The 19th century feel it lends may also be a part of it, and is also not accidental: the naming scheme originates from the times before the modern corporation, where no isolation from liability meant a failed business could easily leave the founder on the street (but loans were also much less accessible). Not much to lose further, then, is there?
> There's something very appealing to me about people who name their companies after themselves. Ling's cars, Prusa Research, Linus Media Group. Maybe I'm only remembering the good examples, but when you put yourself out there, it seems like there is a strong incentive to not fuck up your reputation.
So it would seem, but companies can and do survive their founders, and at that point they are no different than any other. Not to mention that founders can be motivated by reputation in an idiosyncratic manner.
One I found that's similar is http://9front.org/. I scratched my head in disbelief because I was looking for an operating system, and the website looked like I arrived at a kooky conteo place.
Part of what makes this fun is that Canlis is a high end dining restaurant and generally uses a very modern/professional aesthetic in their branding: https://canlis.com/
It also renders fine (and quickly) with no Javascript. I'm going to guess it's probably also friendly on the data. It's (mostly) legible, despite the color scheme. There's no autoplaying video or audio that assaults my senses.
I think we could use more design like this on the web, but, you know, with interesting stuff to read.
They should be more toward the middle of the page so they look down more often. Maybe are there because of 'follow on Twitter' and that was best on the bottom of the page.
Some time ago this was showcased on hn too: https://build.mmm.page/
It too is a dnd website builder that prone fun and brutalist design and whole tld also is .page. Are these two projects related ?
straw.page has been posted by okozzie 16 times in the last 10 months, sometimes the odd URL hack to get past the repost filters (+?, /start, +?ref=hn, +?ref, +?utm) but mostly just the same page.
"Straw.Page lets you create unique websites straight from your phone.
A drag and drop website builder that works on mobile."
It clearly tells me what the product does unlike many landing pages these days. I often have to read docs to understand what a product does because someone decided to put too much effort to make it look unique.
How unprofessional is it? Can you guarantee that i will lose customers if i use it? How many will i lose? How am i supposed to trust this service, it's so doesnt look very professional
"hipsterDB is a key/value store that only returns data as long as it isn't mainstream. The more often that you access a key the more mainstream it becomes. After data has gone mainstream you will have to wait for it to go out of style before using it again."
Just to be clear, those aren't stats for my site (or any site) haha.
Premium users get analytics on their website - that was just supposed to highlight the analytics feature. I'll try to make it more clear that they aren't real stats (it's a demonstration of the feature)
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otherwise, bis!
For everything I built that never leaves my home network, I always use the HTML `marquee` tag somewhere, simply because I think it's funny and it's bizarrely still supported.
You can find a similar aesthetic in many art spaces:
https://rhizome.org/events/
https://indigo.ooo/en/
https://2019.indigo.ooo/en/
https://2017.indigo.ooo/en/
I like this one
> "The punk ethos is primarily made up of beliefs such as non-conformity, anti-authoritarianism, anti-corporatism, a do-it-yourself ethic, anti-consumerist, anti-corporate greed, direct action and not "selling out"."
That punk is treated as a serious artistic subject does not conflict with that. There's lots of other unprofessional subjects and motifs in art spaces, e.g., nudity.
Substitute "Punk" for e.g. "Group" and read that sentence again.
https://youtu.be/KHbzSif78qQ?t=35
punk is dead,
It's just another cheap product for the consumer's head.
Bubblegum rock on plastic transistors,
Schoolboy sedition backed by big time promoters.
Cbs promoted the clash,
But it ain't for revolution, it's just for cash.
Punk became a fashion just like hippy used to be
And it ain't got a thing to do with you or me.
- Crass
Anything is professional these days as long as you can sell things with it.
I heard he was reborn as a cryptobro
[0] https://brutalistwebsites.com/
and the visitor counter.
Please do not forget the circling text or clock around the cursor.
Also, you must choose between a spinning logo or a flaming logo.
And the background should be a tiled animated GIF. Gotta keep it subtle.
I'm put in mind of an early client of mine that absolutely refused to take any of my advice concerning design:
https://web.archive.org/web/20011127214330/http://www.lvwedd...
Yes, it's a real car leasing company. Desktop version is best but mobile is still great.
https://m.lingscars.com/ghc
"god hates cars"
You can't make this shit up. I hope they can keep this up forever.
This is just perfect. I love this website so much. If I lived in the UK I would seriously consider buying from this website. So I guess this advertising works for me.
The site for Yvette's Bridal Formal, sadly now gone but archived [1], lacks the animations, but doubles down on the color assault and doesn't interrupt it with any sanity for arguably more effective inflection of mental damage upon the viewer.
[1] https://yvettesbridalformal.p1r8.net/
https://www.google.com/maps/place/LINGsCARS/@54.9613364,-1.6...
So it would seem, but companies can and do survive their founders, and at that point they are no different than any other. Not to mention that founders can be motivated by reputation in an idiosyncratic manner.
http://www.subgenius.com/newdevivals.html
"Become an Ordained Minister" http://www.subgenius.com/index.htm
Part of what makes this fun is that Canlis is a high end dining restaurant and generally uses a very modern/professional aesthetic in their branding: https://canlis.com/
Great customer service too - she runs an excellent business.
She was on UK dragon's den too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc1ktZRZ5ZM
and then a prompt to subscribe to your email newsletter...
and then a modal box offering 15% off
UX is probably in the top half of commercial sites
"Hey 50.000 people are looking to book this exact room at this exact moment".
So unannoying, this site, that it's not even funny.
Followed by the same for location access
And then finding out I have to consider turning off ad block to consider consuming the content
And then turning it off and refreshing the page just to find it was paywalled all along, just under the fold!
I think we could use more design like this on the web, but, you know, with interesting stuff to read.
I just redesigned the landing page, in preparation for a huge update coming next week (blogging!)
Twitter for updates:
https://twitter.com/okozzie_/status/1467951581408727047
It clearly tells me what the product does unlike many landing pages these days. I often have to read docs to understand what a product does because someone decided to put too much effort to make it look unique.
You should switch more font sizes and mix in bold and italic
From their Github README.md:
"hipsterDB is a key/value store that only returns data as long as it isn't mainstream. The more often that you access a key the more mainstream it becomes. After data has gone mainstream you will have to wait for it to go out of style before using it again."
Guessing the stats are fabricated
Premium users get analytics on their website - that was just supposed to highlight the analytics feature. I'll try to make it more clear that they aren't real stats (it's a demonstration of the feature)