> the dangers of building a community on someone else's platform.
Ultimately if it's a community it's always someone else's platform, even if that someone else is a community. While you can publish stuff on your own website, it's the access to new audience and ability to promote yourself that is always going to end up through an intermediary.
Why? Spam.
It's been apparent since the days of email that "ability to introduce yourself to new audience" is hugely valuable and hugely abusable. The important thing about Youtube in the video ecosystem is not so much the free (ad-supported) bandwidth, peertube has that, but the list of recommendations. Those are potentially worth millions of dollars, which is why videos are made and thumbnailed purely to get views through them.
(There was someone on here recently answering complaints about the gurning face in their thumbnails with "I don't like doing that either, but if I don't I lose 10% of my revenue")
Very woke, great threads about investigations into technical curiosities (example: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54025997), has been known, if I recall correctly, to delete threads when they're linked on this site.
Foone is mostly known in the retro community for archiving efforts. If you know who Jason Scott (of textfiles.com and Internet Archive team fame) is, you are likely to know about Foone. So this isn't just some random account.
Anyone know what Foone did to get his account suspended? Even though he is into computers I doubt he had his hands on Hunter Biden's computer or tweeted on that,
Surely there's recourse from that. That said, I blocked @foone on Twitter because the account would popup randomly in my feeds. Not that I don't like the account (it's great!) but only in small doses. I check into the account now and then, but seeing this account take over my feeds was so annoying.
I've heard about a lot of accounts being deleted or suspended over the last two weeks. Twitter does selective enforcement periodically where they'll run a scan and suspend or delete thousands of accounts. I imagine its related to the new CEO.
Traditional blockchains don't let you store a lot of data and obviously writing to the block chain is expensive. But is there a blockchain or maybe something else (ipfs?) that allows you to store data cheaply? In that case someone could develop what people originally hoped twitter would be: an protocol for short micro-blogs. Imagine someone that breaks the terms of Twitter could migrate all their tweets easily to another provider, or another provider could just reference them. Twitter could still be a thing, essentially a curation service, feed algorithm, moderation service, etc. But your data wouldn't belong to them.
Images/video are trickier since there's strict liability around those in most countries. So that should continue to live on private hosting services.
Other bad stuff could exist as it does today on the internet. You can find all this stuff online by just searching google for the most part. Most people don't want to interact with that stuff, so they would go on curated content providers like twitter that do active filtering of those things.
Maybe that will finally convince Foone to start a blog instead of putting everything into one basket, posting content Twitter was never even meant for in the first place.
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[ 2.8 ms ] story [ 64.5 ms ] threadI'm sure this will get reversed due to the size of his following but it's frightening none the less.
<<Insert warning about the dangers of building a community on someone else's platform.>>
Ultimately if it's a community it's always someone else's platform, even if that someone else is a community. While you can publish stuff on your own website, it's the access to new audience and ability to promote yourself that is always going to end up through an intermediary.
Why? Spam.
It's been apparent since the days of email that "ability to introduce yourself to new audience" is hugely valuable and hugely abusable. The important thing about Youtube in the video ecosystem is not so much the free (ad-supported) bandwidth, peertube has that, but the list of recommendations. Those are potentially worth millions of dollars, which is why videos are made and thumbnailed purely to get views through them.
(There was someone on here recently answering complaints about the gurning face in their thumbnails with "I don't like doing that either, but if I don't I lose 10% of my revenue")
https://www.patreon.com/foone
https://threadreaderapp.com/user/Foone
Most of their content was on Twitter, so if you don't know who foone is, you're out of luck at the moment.
http://floppy.foone.org/w/Main_Page.
Full of arcane knowledge, insatatiable curiosity and a weird sense of humor.
And by the way i read somewhere that ending on hacker news front page is not of his/her/they? liking.
Traditional blockchains don't let you store a lot of data and obviously writing to the block chain is expensive. But is there a blockchain or maybe something else (ipfs?) that allows you to store data cheaply? In that case someone could develop what people originally hoped twitter would be: an protocol for short micro-blogs. Imagine someone that breaks the terms of Twitter could migrate all their tweets easily to another provider, or another provider could just reference them. Twitter could still be a thing, essentially a curation service, feed algorithm, moderation service, etc. But your data wouldn't belong to them.
What happens when the chain / ipfs is flooded with immutable CP? Anti-semitic content? Anti-Vaxx disinformation? Revenge-porn? Pii leaks?
Other bad stuff could exist as it does today on the internet. You can find all this stuff online by just searching google for the most part. Most people don't want to interact with that stuff, so they would go on curated content providers like twitter that do active filtering of those things.
self-backup to aws glacier?
either that or be famous enough that someone from /r/datahoarder backs it up for you.
>In that case someone could develop what people originally hoped twitter would be: an protocol for short micro-blogs
sounds like the fediverse.