Fox has been going more to the right for a few years now, but CNN has really been fading out especially with the recent scandals hitting Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon. Their core audience is older centrist-leaning folks and securing someone like Chris Wallace may help them bring over some center-right viewers from Fox.
I used to think of CNN as fairly centrist (or at least more "straight news"), but haven't they leaned pretty heavily into the hard-left lately, especially with moving to more opinion-based shows? It doesn't seem like it's very controversial to say that Cuomo, Lemon, and Stelter are pretty obviously leftists?
Maybe this is an omission from CNN that moving to the left with opinion shows was a mistake and represents a move back to hard news again. Isn't Wallace considered more of a centrist reporter?
Disclaimer: I don't watch Fox or CNN other than occasionally seeing it in an office or when visiting someone's house?
Note that the precipitating event was Wallace’s Fox contract coming to an end. This wasn’t ideological ragequit.
But this probably is a consequence of Fox having gone full Trumpy/facist (see: Tucker Carlson) and CNN willing to buy names for their new streaming service, which I think they correctly view as the future of live news (if there is a future outside of TikTok or TikTok-alikes).
I am a hard right conservative libertarian. Fox News though has disappointingly gone off into a fantasyland of crazy opinions. Our country needs a fierce but ethical right wing news source, but sadly Fox News is not it. Fox News instead is full of yellow journalism and opinions disguised as headlines.
> Our country needs a fierce but ethical right wing news source,
I can not produce it, but I made a list of at least 6 links to different news sources, mostly newspapers, that had varying degrees of conservative Right leanings and yet were fundamentally ethical publishers. I imagine if you look you will find or duplicate my lost list. I mean to say our country already has fierce but ethical right wing news sources, they're just probably not broadcast news sources, they're print and web sources.
I wanted to further comment that your statement is really only true of broadcast television if the size of the viewing audience reaches a threshold that attracts advertisers. I reference your initial self-declaration, because I expect it includes support for free-market capitalism, so you should already understand why you're not seeing the broadcast news service that you want. Good on you for seeing some of the issue, regarding all the nonsense, and yet, hard-right conservative libertarianism is, itself, I'm afraid, nonsense. This is reflected in the fact that you're not seeing a broadcast news source of which you approve, and yet neatly and ironically you do approve by, admittedly I assume a small included detail of your stated ideological leaning, which is a strong insistence on free market-capitalism.
One might say a similar ideology in synchronicity with libertarianism is Rand's Objectivism, which similarly does not cut the mustard to be a philosophy. Notably, Rand said, All kinds of people today call themselves "libertarians," especially something calling itself the New Right, which consists of hippies who are anarchists instead of leftist collectivists; but anarchists are collectivists. Capitalism is the one system that requires absolute objective law, yet libertarians combine capitalism and anarchism. That's worse than anything the New Left has proposed. It's a mockery of philosophy and ideology. They sling slogans and try to ride on two bandwagons. They want to be hippies, but don't want to preach collectivism because those jobs are already taken. But anarchism is a logical outgrowth of the anti-intellectual side of collectivism. I could deal with a Marxist with a greater chance of reaching some kind of understanding, and with much greater respect. Anarchists are the scum of the intellectual world of the Left, which has given them up. So the Right picks up another leftist discard. That's the libertarian movement.
Rand's Objectivism is utter nonsense, her novels unfortunate implementations of her nonsense, but I don't give her enough credit, because that's not half bad.
I’m not sure what to make of this. But, Wallace belonged on Fox about as much as Megyn Kelly belonged on NBC. I think it’s safe to say, although likely to offend some, that he votes with his new network and has increasingly more in common with the current president’s views than the average modern republican. Next combine CNN very desperately needing adult journalists who are scandal-free following recent events. He’s certainly nearing retirement too so I’m thinking they offered him something with lower stress and a nice retirement war chest. Will be very surprised if he was pushed out of Fox.
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[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 14.1 ms ] threadI wonder if it also signals that CNN is trying to appeal more to conservatives?
Fox has been going more to the right for a few years now, but CNN has really been fading out especially with the recent scandals hitting Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon. Their core audience is older centrist-leaning folks and securing someone like Chris Wallace may help them bring over some center-right viewers from Fox.
A few decades now...
Maybe this is an omission from CNN that moving to the left with opinion shows was a mistake and represents a move back to hard news again. Isn't Wallace considered more of a centrist reporter?
Disclaimer: I don't watch Fox or CNN other than occasionally seeing it in an office or when visiting someone's house?
But this probably is a consequence of Fox having gone full Trumpy/facist (see: Tucker Carlson) and CNN willing to buy names for their new streaming service, which I think they correctly view as the future of live news (if there is a future outside of TikTok or TikTok-alikes).
I guess I took that sentence to mean what I hoped it would mean, but of course you are right...
I can not produce it, but I made a list of at least 6 links to different news sources, mostly newspapers, that had varying degrees of conservative Right leanings and yet were fundamentally ethical publishers. I imagine if you look you will find or duplicate my lost list. I mean to say our country already has fierce but ethical right wing news sources, they're just probably not broadcast news sources, they're print and web sources.
I wanted to further comment that your statement is really only true of broadcast television if the size of the viewing audience reaches a threshold that attracts advertisers. I reference your initial self-declaration, because I expect it includes support for free-market capitalism, so you should already understand why you're not seeing the broadcast news service that you want. Good on you for seeing some of the issue, regarding all the nonsense, and yet, hard-right conservative libertarianism is, itself, I'm afraid, nonsense. This is reflected in the fact that you're not seeing a broadcast news source of which you approve, and yet neatly and ironically you do approve by, admittedly I assume a small included detail of your stated ideological leaning, which is a strong insistence on free market-capitalism.
One might say a similar ideology in synchronicity with libertarianism is Rand's Objectivism, which similarly does not cut the mustard to be a philosophy. Notably, Rand said, All kinds of people today call themselves "libertarians," especially something calling itself the New Right, which consists of hippies who are anarchists instead of leftist collectivists; but anarchists are collectivists. Capitalism is the one system that requires absolute objective law, yet libertarians combine capitalism and anarchism. That's worse than anything the New Left has proposed. It's a mockery of philosophy and ideology. They sling slogans and try to ride on two bandwagons. They want to be hippies, but don't want to preach collectivism because those jobs are already taken. But anarchism is a logical outgrowth of the anti-intellectual side of collectivism. I could deal with a Marxist with a greater chance of reaching some kind of understanding, and with much greater respect. Anarchists are the scum of the intellectual world of the Left, which has given them up. So the Right picks up another leftist discard. That's the libertarian movement.
Rand's Objectivism is utter nonsense, her novels unfortunate implementations of her nonsense, but I don't give her enough credit, because that's not half bad.