People that give big payments for their own content creation are truly awful human beings. This should have been a normal tip that just happened to be a few magnitudes larger than others.
Yah but CEOs get highly publicized bonuses to reward them for 'excellence' despite it being the company behind them making the actual products. Why should a waitress have to take money under the table to keep her explicitly customer-granted bonus, when CEOs get to brag about it and it's much harder to draw a link between those bonus funds and a direct service activity?
Those on the bottom of the totem pole need the recognition, esteem, and resume building much more than the CEOs.
No doubt those bonuses would be secret if they could be. Fortunately they are required to be transparent, so the only option is to brag about how well-deserved they are.
If it was the company behind giving the waittress a highly publicized tip, then there would be a discussion to be had here. As it stands, there is no similarity for this heartfelt dystopia.
Maybe you are not aware of this but the vaccines don't prevent the spreading of the virus. This is because they prevent you from becoming sick, not from becoming infected or being contagious.
And after 6 months the effect of the vaccines starts declining and after 9 months they don't work anymore. That's why booster campaigns are starting now.
The virus also changes, typically towards less virulence in an inverse relationship with contagiousness, even if the name is the same and all variants reported as if cause for additional alarm. Tragically, the population also changes as people who have not died yet are statistically less at risk.
Most people in the US you mean? Look around at the rest of the world. Only around 60% of the world population has received at least one dose of a vaccine, and that's skewed dramatically towards developed countries. Meanwhile the virus, which knows no borders, is continuing to mutate out there.
It only ended for people who don't care. If you aren't wearing a mask, there is still a chance that you're spreading it around to vulnerable people.
The vaccines reduce the chance that you get infected, but you can still get infected and spread it. The vaccines reduce the chance of hospitalization and death for most people, but not for everyone.
Lol. The vulnerable people who doesn't want to get infected can also 1) get vaccinated and 2) wear the best masks and 3) stop going to crowded place (like shopping on line and eating at home). Stop using this nonsense to force other people to wear masks.
It's more complicated than that. The vaccines don't work for everyone. There are certain medications and health conditions that interfere with the vaccines. Even if they stay home, vulnerable people are at risk from coming into contact with people who come into contact with the people who don't wear masks.
If you don't wear a mask, and you give the virus to someone with your asymptomatic case, and they go home and give it to their immunocompromised family member, you might end up indirectly killing someone.
We obviously won't be wearing masks until the end of time, but only until the virus is under control. Just in the USA, 1,000 people are dying from COVID per day, and omicron is coming.
The pandemic doesn't only exist in how it affects you personally. There are many responsible vaccinated people who are going to die because of people who aren't wearing masks.
Masks and vaccines like this have not existed until relatively recently. We now have tools so that not as many people have to suffer and die from pandemics.
Now we are going to get in to more controversial regions of this debate.
We have to look at those 1,000 per day, and ask are they dying WITH covid or FROM covid, currently there is a monetary incentive for health providers to label as many deaths as possible as "COVID RELATED" which then enables them to collect some or all of their costs from the government
>>We obviously won't be wearing masks until the end of time, but only until the virus is under control.
here is the rub, I do not believe it will ever be under control, what number is your target for under control? clearly 1,000 is to high for you (even though i suspect the real number is lower), would 300 be acceptable? Because that is "bad" seasonal flu level (for which we have had in the past with out this type of response) but I some how doubt you would say 300 deaths per day is "under control"
Sorry, that's ridiculous. If a person would not be dead if they hadn't contracted COVID, even if they had other health conditions, then masks and vaccines are a factor in preventing those deaths, and COVID is the cause.
If you throw a rock off of an overpass and it hits a car, and that car swerves uncontrollably and kills a pedestrian, then your throwing the rock was the fundamental cause of the death, not the driver of the car or the car itself.
If anything, the COVID deaths are underreported.[1]
The virus will eventually be under control, just like most other viruses in the past. We will have better treatments within a year or two. Paxlovid is one example, but there will be more. There might be only a handful of deaths once that happens. For the sake of the vulnerable people out there, we all have to practice basic virus safety until then.
>> There might be only a handful of deaths once that happens
No that is what is ridiculous, the idea we will get down to only a handful. At best it is going to have numbers at the same level as the seasonal flu. At best, most likely the mean annual average it going to trend slightly higher than the flu
>>Sorry, that's ridiculous
It is not
>>If anything, the COVID deaths are underreported.[1]
Well you might want to read the study closer, they are largely complaining about "indirect deaths" from covid. I quote
"Indirect effects may include increases in mortality resulting from reductions in access to and use of healthcare services and psychosocial consequences of stay-at-home orders," "
I would not classify these as COVID Deaths, but rather deaths due to people panicking and creating ridiculous rules around COVID, something you are advocating increase use of in this thread, which will simply lead to MORE indirect death
A classic case of the treatment being worse than the illness.
To be clear, if you want to wear a mask more power to you, if you want to ask others to voluntarily do it more power to you, if you want to ask business you transact with to require it of all customer as is their right as property owners more power to you, but you cross the ethical line for me when you adventure into wanting the government to mandate you will onto others backed by the full force and violence of that government. I dont care if that mandate is in the form of mask, vaccines, stay at home order, or anything else, I oppose all government enforced mandates related to COVID 19
It's going to be impossible to calculate COVID deaths, but even in my own family death has occurred during COVID infection that wasn't officially counted as COVID death.
The conversation isn't about government mandates -- it's about whether people should wear a mask and practice basic virus safety even after they are vaccinated. In any case, you already follow government enforced mandates that help protect us all: wearing seatbelts, not wearing earphones in the car, getting vaccinations to go to school[1] or enter countries, and much more.
Wearing masks doesn't lead to more indirect deaths. Not wearing masks prolongs the pandemic and leads to more direct and indirect deaths as well as prolonging the economic devastation that many are dealing with.
In times of severe catastrophe, we all have to work together to keep everyone safe. People who don't wear masks increase the risk of death for vulnerable people and prolong the pandemic.
>>Wearing masks doesn't lead to more indirect deaths.
Wrong, I know many people right now that are putting off seeing the doctor because of masking policies at many medical facilities.
>The conversation isn't about government mandates
Sure it is, as you prove in your next statement
>>e, you already follow government enforced mandates that help protect us all: wearing seatbelts, not wearing earphones in the car, getting vaccinations to go to school[1] or enter countries, and much more.
and I oppose all of those as well, just because we already have draconian authoritarianism does not justify more authoritarianism
> I know many people right now that are putting off seeing the doctor because of masking policies at many medical facilities.
Because they have to wear a mask at the medical facilities? If that's what you're saying, those people are extremely foolish and are choosing their own Darwin awards.
> I oppose all of those as well
I don't think there is anywhere else for this conversation to go, so let's end it. :)
it is sad we have fallen as a society so far that there is not even any remove left to discuss liberty, that the nanny state has such a hold on people that there is a honest believe that "wearing a seat belt" mandates protects others, and not insurance company profits. Your wearing of a seat-belt or not has no bearing at all on the safety of others.
As to the others I can make very strong cases as to why there real motivations, and actual execution are more harmful to the over all population their stated goals are. The government passes a law called "Help the puppies" but in the actual execution they are killing puppies but no on questions the results of government action just their intent and as they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions
It sounds like a simplistic, self-centered view of liberty. It's impossible to live in a population-dense society and not have your actions affect other people.
If you think that seat belt laws, mask mandates during a pandemic, or school vaccine requirements are "draconian authoritarianism" you don't have a reasonable perspective on society or history.
Traffic injuries and deaths affect the whole system: EMTs/police who experience needless trauma, families (loss of income, parents, spouses, etc.), friends, health insurance, an increase in disabled people who draw from the system instead of paying into it, and much more. Seat-belt laws reduce the burden of car accidents on all of us.
The one and two-dose vaccines produced no measurable level of antibodies in nearly all of the hundreds of thousands of organ recipients in the US. A third dose produced some measurable response in about 40% of people as per a Johns Hopkins study. My Dad luckily had some response from a third shot. I got the Pfizer two shot and a booster and I wear a mask daily when indoors to prevent the spread and creation of new variants to protect others.
* you can choose well ventilated businesses (which this place is, I've been there personally as recent as Friday)
* you can get vaccinated
What others are doing is none of your business at this point. Furthermore California is hosting the SuperBowl, NCAA tournaments, firing nurses, and the governor is on a book signing tour.
Lastly, Bentonville is marked by a massive population of people that bike and represent an extremely healthy segment. They are neither at risk for contraction or spread of the disease.
I have not seen any evidence, that being "healthy" makes any difference with the risk of getting infected and the likelihood of spreading the disease. It does make some difference how bad you come down with the disease.
(in a sense, "healthy" people might spread the disease worse, if they only have light symptoms which they don't notice)
Management told her she had to share the tips with other staff, the tippers insisted it was for her alone, managers handling brought bad juju. As a former cook, this is all hard to take.
US tipping culture is just awful. For anyone that comes with „yeah but you can show appreciation towards the servers“. When was the last time you tipped your plumber, mechanic, cashier, programmer, nurse or lawyer?
I live in Europe and I remember all the people I've tipped, which isn't many, because they went above and beyond to serve a customer. US-style peer pressured tipping is ridiculous and worse is people defending the practice. Just pay your damn employees better.
Oh man, wait till you hear the rationale from workers that are recipients of tips!
You almost want to sympathize and be convinced (or maybe you want to be intimate with the server that you're on a date with, which incentivizes being supportive)
And then you realize they aren't educated enough to really have an objective opinion about the economics behind their predicament
I've heard people saying to tip as high as 40% and not to go out to eat if you can't do that! haha, what a rip off, but then it illuminates how any percentage is just as arbitrary.
Broken system that should be fixed. Also, many states do pay their wait staff a real wage but the consumer doesn't get to tell the difference, and is peer pressured into an amorphous American tipping culture.
I don't tip every person I hire for every job, but if they go above and beyond somehow, I thank them for it in the form of a little extra cash or a gift card.
Just recently, I hired a young man to rebuild my front porch, he did a great job and got it done fast, so I padded out his check out by 10%.
When my father was dying of alzheimer's, we made a point of giving $100 gift cards during the holiday to the 3 or 4 nurses who treated him like a person instead of a job.
This is definitely cultural but also personal issue. I regularly tip cashiers, nurses (usually in the form of chocolate or some small gift), car mechanic, hair dresser, programmers (as in monthly donations to FLOSS) etc.
I think this is nuts. First you need tips to survive if you work in restaurants because the owners pay too little, then the owners take the tips and distribute them around. What's the next level? Make tipping mandatory? May as well put it in the price.
Just ban tipping and pay the employees a fair wage. Will be better and less stressful for all parties. Customers, employees and owners.
That’s not the suggestion though as that is still hiding the charge and not folding it into the price on the menus. If “automatic gratuity” is 20% just put prices up by 20%!
I have met some wait staff that has gone to school for hospitality and while they make shit pay, I have had friends easily making about $2000 a week and they don't want to go to a wage system.
I have never waited, but I get the point, if you do good you can make good cash. It's the same with comission jobs.
Where tips suck is if you are at a dead place, cheap place, or you are a lazy shitty waiter.
Good service gets good tips. If you are on your phone making TikToks when you're supposed to be taking an order, and you smell like an ashtray every time you come to the table, that is why you have shit tips, and it's the same reason no one would hire you at some sort of normal wage.
Some people believe they are not paid for their worth, but it's actually heartbreaking to think how many people will flat out say NO to a job that's an actual career.
It's like when Uber drivers get upset that they don't get full benefits but lose their shit when you mention spending 5 hours a week driving around isn't really a job.
This makes intuitive sense but empirically is simply not true. Tipping is far more correlated with sex and race discrimination than individual performance.
I'm a below average looking male and I worked in the restaurant industry before tech, both in the kitchen and front of house (serving, tending bar, management). When I served, I'd walk away from an average evening with a few hundred dollars in cash. I'm sure it's easier if you're attractive and flirty, but it's also possible to make good money by being professional.
I don't understand what one has to do with the other. The owners should not rely on workers being able to receive tips in the first place. Tipping is not something involving the owner, as this is (except when contractually clarified) a direct transaction between customer and waiting staff.
To put it in a different context: I think I should pay the car rental shop less, because I know they have lots of money.
If you eliminate tipping and pay the employees a fair wage then you will need to raise your prices in order to do so. Which means you are wrapping what was the tip into the menu price and in essence making tipping mandatory.
That was the point, yes. On top of that it would be fairer, because everybody will pay their share of the employees' wage. Freeloading cheap food, made possible by other people's tips would no longer be possible.
> After getting the tip, however, Brandt said her manager told her that she and the other servers who worked the party couldn’t keep all of it. Instead, they would have to split it among the bartenders, cooks and food runners, something that had never happened before, Brandt said. Normally, 7 percent of a server’s food-and-beverage sales at Oven & Tap are automatically deducted from their paychecks to pay those people, while tips are left untouched, her lawyer, Bill Horton, told The Washington Post.
I could understand the difficulty in handling this as a manager. Sure the other staff should be happy for the waiters receiving the tip, but in actuality there would likely be hostility among the rest of the staff that's likely paid less and have harder jobs.
She ended up being fired for going back to the person who gave the tip and telling him she was unable to keep it. Firing her was an over-reaction, but a restaurant should have a policy where the waiters should not be allowed to discuss tips with customers. It would avoid confronting customers about tip amounts or being pushy.
My understanding based on a previous discussion of tips is it's actually the opposite: everyone else is paid better, and that's why splitting tips with them is so contentious.
Their expected tips are considered when their fixed comp is set. They still get paid more than line cook or bus boys and I would argue have easier jobs for the most part.
However this breaks down if someone drops a huge tip on them. I could understand the other workers being resentful.
“ Normally, 7 percent of a server’s food-and-beverage sales at Oven & Tap are automatically deducted out of their paychecks to pay those people, while tips are left untouched, her lawyer”
This is nuts, this can’t be normal. They deduct wages based on sales? So sell more, get paid less!?
Edit: As someone outside the US (in the UK) it’s seeing stuff like this that makes me realise how the “gig culture” type statups took off over there and have spread around the world. This would literally not be legal in the UK.
Or if you don't get tipped, the server still has to pay the 7% of sales. So it sounds like the restaurant was trying to shove all the risk on to the server and also take the upside of the generous tip.
If someone doesn’t tip (for any reason, forgot/foreign/unknowledgable) the server themselves pays for 7% of the meal… call me crazy but that shouldn't be legal.
It seems like a reasonable compromise to share tips with the back of the house, without the effort and degredation involved in tracking exactly who tipped how much to whom. Nothing's perfect.
Then just get rid of tips, add 20% to your prices, pay your staff properly and manage them. If they perform badly train them better, promote and give pay rises to the best staff. If you really wanted to have a bonus system based on customer feedback. You know, the way normal business work.
I think the person made the $4,400 tip didn't understand that the waitress was not the only one served them, not even the one contributed the most of the labor. Just imagine how other workers would think to let the the waitress alone take out the big tip.
The thing is, in the USA, there is a minimum wage, and waiters specifically are allowed to receive a wage much lower than the normal minimum because they're expected to subsist off tips. Other non-tipped restaurant employees get paid an actual wage for their labor. So if the waitress received a windfall, it's only fair that she get to keep it and not be forced to share with the other fully compensated staff.
Given the article says the customer explicitly called the restaurant to check their tipping policy in advance; and to ensure their favourite server would be waiting on them that evening, it seems pretty clear that's not the case.
> the restaurant normally takes a cut of servers’ credit card tips to divvy among other employees
This is the problem.
Management should not handle tips -- it should be done among the workers themselves. Some places split the tips with the back staff e.g. kitchen and porters.
Once management have collected the tips -- there is too much incentive to keep some of it. Staff will not know how much the tip "pool" is. The transparency is lost and thus trust or accountability.
> “We are tipping,” Grant Wise hollered so the entire party could hear, “a total of $4,400.”
Filming yourself loudly yelling about how much you're tipping is so incredibly cringeworthy.
If you want to help someone out, just do it. Don't turn your server into a human prop and make a scene for your "look at us helping poor people" social media stunt.
I very much enjoy Bentonville for mountain biking. I was just there Friday because there was a nice 72 degree day.
Oven and Tap _was_ one my favorite restaurants. The food _was_ amazing and it is a nice classy atmosphere, but until they apologize for taking legal action against a waitress for telling the truth, I'll be voting with my dollar.
The restaurant is so in the wrong here. They want it both ways: to short change their waiters by deducting 7% of their wage from their paychecks, and to seize tips. Unfortunately this is common practice, but it needs to be eliminated completely.
Tipping incentivises so many bad things, from these power dynamics where one benevolent human gets to look good and the receiver of alms is tugging their forelock in gratitude, to piss-poor wages and unequal distribution of money to those working, to 20% of turnover being completely off the books, and on top of that making a big fucking deal about a tip, the irony of rewarding a server while being self-serving!
All the rolling eyes I can muster while recoiling from this postmodern-Dickensian paradise.
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[ 1.9 ms ] story [ 159 ms ] threadIts humans in a barrel at the bottom, they’ll always pull each other down if you provide transparency.
Those on the bottom of the totem pole need the recognition, esteem, and resume building much more than the CEOs.
On other hand, the msn article is so badly written, I'm not sure I understand exactly what happened in this case.
WaPo WaPo WaPo WaPo WaPo WaPo
And after 6 months the effect of the vaccines starts declining and after 9 months they don't work anymore. That's why booster campaigns are starting now.
Most people in the US you mean? Look around at the rest of the world. Only around 60% of the world population has received at least one dose of a vaccine, and that's skewed dramatically towards developed countries. Meanwhile the virus, which knows no borders, is continuing to mutate out there.
The vaccines reduce the chance that you get infected, but you can still get infected and spread it. The vaccines reduce the chance of hospitalization and death for most people, but not for everyone.
If you don't wear a mask, and you give the virus to someone with your asymptomatic case, and they go home and give it to their immunocompromised family member, you might end up indirectly killing someone.
So what is your position, everyone should always wear masks at all time for the rest of time?
Nope, not going to do that
The pandemic doesn't only exist in how it affects you personally. There are many responsible vaccinated people who are going to die because of people who aren't wearing masks.
Masks and vaccines like this have not existed until relatively recently. We now have tools so that not as many people have to suffer and die from pandemics.
We have to look at those 1,000 per day, and ask are they dying WITH covid or FROM covid, currently there is a monetary incentive for health providers to label as many deaths as possible as "COVID RELATED" which then enables them to collect some or all of their costs from the government
>>We obviously won't be wearing masks until the end of time, but only until the virus is under control.
here is the rub, I do not believe it will ever be under control, what number is your target for under control? clearly 1,000 is to high for you (even though i suspect the real number is lower), would 300 be acceptable? Because that is "bad" seasonal flu level (for which we have had in the past with out this type of response) but I some how doubt you would say 300 deaths per day is "under control"
Sorry, that's ridiculous. If a person would not be dead if they hadn't contracted COVID, even if they had other health conditions, then masks and vaccines are a factor in preventing those deaths, and COVID is the cause.
If you throw a rock off of an overpass and it hits a car, and that car swerves uncontrollably and kills a pedestrian, then your throwing the rock was the fundamental cause of the death, not the driver of the car or the car itself.
If anything, the COVID deaths are underreported.[1]
The virus will eventually be under control, just like most other viruses in the past. We will have better treatments within a year or two. Paxlovid is one example, but there will be more. There might be only a handful of deaths once that happens. For the sake of the vulnerable people out there, we all have to practice basic virus safety until then.
[1] https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/05/covid-19...
No that is what is ridiculous, the idea we will get down to only a handful. At best it is going to have numbers at the same level as the seasonal flu. At best, most likely the mean annual average it going to trend slightly higher than the flu
>>Sorry, that's ridiculous
It is not
>>If anything, the COVID deaths are underreported.[1]
Well you might want to read the study closer, they are largely complaining about "indirect deaths" from covid. I quote
"Indirect effects may include increases in mortality resulting from reductions in access to and use of healthcare services and psychosocial consequences of stay-at-home orders," "
I would not classify these as COVID Deaths, but rather deaths due to people panicking and creating ridiculous rules around COVID, something you are advocating increase use of in this thread, which will simply lead to MORE indirect death
A classic case of the treatment being worse than the illness.
To be clear, if you want to wear a mask more power to you, if you want to ask others to voluntarily do it more power to you, if you want to ask business you transact with to require it of all customer as is their right as property owners more power to you, but you cross the ethical line for me when you adventure into wanting the government to mandate you will onto others backed by the full force and violence of that government. I dont care if that mandate is in the form of mask, vaccines, stay at home order, or anything else, I oppose all government enforced mandates related to COVID 19
The conversation isn't about government mandates -- it's about whether people should wear a mask and practice basic virus safety even after they are vaccinated. In any case, you already follow government enforced mandates that help protect us all: wearing seatbelts, not wearing earphones in the car, getting vaccinations to go to school[1] or enter countries, and much more.
Wearing masks doesn't lead to more indirect deaths. Not wearing masks prolongs the pandemic and leads to more direct and indirect deaths as well as prolonging the economic devastation that many are dealing with.
In times of severe catastrophe, we all have to work together to keep everyone safe. People who don't wear masks increase the risk of death for vulnerable people and prolong the pandemic.
[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/08/states-have...
Wrong, I know many people right now that are putting off seeing the doctor because of masking policies at many medical facilities.
>The conversation isn't about government mandates
Sure it is, as you prove in your next statement
>>e, you already follow government enforced mandates that help protect us all: wearing seatbelts, not wearing earphones in the car, getting vaccinations to go to school[1] or enter countries, and much more.
and I oppose all of those as well, just because we already have draconian authoritarianism does not justify more authoritarianism
Because they have to wear a mask at the medical facilities? If that's what you're saying, those people are extremely foolish and are choosing their own Darwin awards.
> I oppose all of those as well
I don't think there is anywhere else for this conversation to go, so let's end it. :)
As to the others I can make very strong cases as to why there real motivations, and actual execution are more harmful to the over all population their stated goals are. The government passes a law called "Help the puppies" but in the actual execution they are killing puppies but no on questions the results of government action just their intent and as they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions
If you think that seat belt laws, mask mandates during a pandemic, or school vaccine requirements are "draconian authoritarianism" you don't have a reasonable perspective on society or history.
Traffic injuries and deaths affect the whole system: EMTs/police who experience needless trauma, families (loss of income, parents, spouses, etc.), friends, health insurance, an increase in disabled people who draw from the system instead of paying into it, and much more. Seat-belt laws reduce the burden of car accidents on all of us.
* you can social distance
* you can stay outdoors
* you can choose well ventilated businesses (which this place is, I've been there personally as recent as Friday)
* you can get vaccinated
What others are doing is none of your business at this point. Furthermore California is hosting the SuperBowl, NCAA tournaments, firing nurses, and the governor is on a book signing tour.
Lastly, Bentonville is marked by a massive population of people that bike and represent an extremely healthy segment. They are neither at risk for contraction or spread of the disease.
Even if they don't admit to themselves, that probably was the reason of the firing, or some quarrel about it, we humans are petty.
And then you realize they aren't educated enough to really have an objective opinion about the economics behind their predicament
I've heard people saying to tip as high as 40% and not to go out to eat if you can't do that! haha, what a rip off, but then it illuminates how any percentage is just as arbitrary.
Broken system that should be fixed. Also, many states do pay their wait staff a real wage but the consumer doesn't get to tell the difference, and is peer pressured into an amorphous American tipping culture.
I don't tip every person I hire for every job, but if they go above and beyond somehow, I thank them for it in the form of a little extra cash or a gift card.
Just recently, I hired a young man to rebuild my front porch, he did a great job and got it done fast, so I padded out his check out by 10%.
When my father was dying of alzheimer's, we made a point of giving $100 gift cards during the holiday to the 3 or 4 nurses who treated him like a person instead of a job.
Just ban tipping and pay the employees a fair wage. Will be better and less stressful for all parties. Customers, employees and owners.
It’s called “automatic gratuity” and it definitely exists.
I have met some wait staff that has gone to school for hospitality and while they make shit pay, I have had friends easily making about $2000 a week and they don't want to go to a wage system.
I have never waited, but I get the point, if you do good you can make good cash. It's the same with comission jobs.
Where tips suck is if you are at a dead place, cheap place, or you are a lazy shitty waiter.
Good service gets good tips. If you are on your phone making TikToks when you're supposed to be taking an order, and you smell like an ashtray every time you come to the table, that is why you have shit tips, and it's the same reason no one would hire you at some sort of normal wage.
Some people believe they are not paid for their worth, but it's actually heartbreaking to think how many people will flat out say NO to a job that's an actual career.
It's like when Uber drivers get upset that they don't get full benefits but lose their shit when you mention spending 5 hours a week driving around isn't really a job.
This makes intuitive sense but empirically is simply not true. Tipping is far more correlated with sex and race discrimination than individual performance.
Let me fix that for you: "if you look good (young/sexy etc) you can make good cash"
Seems like people do a lot of projecting.
It's crazy to think all patrons are pervert men and all wait staff are sexy naive little girls.
It's ok to just admit you have never been to a restaurant, it's easier than sounding like some sort of Jack ass.
To put it in a different context: I think I should pay the car rental shop less, because I know they have lots of money.
They would laugh at me.
So should the waiting staff.
I could understand the difficulty in handling this as a manager. Sure the other staff should be happy for the waiters receiving the tip, but in actuality there would likely be hostility among the rest of the staff that's likely paid less and have harder jobs.
She ended up being fired for going back to the person who gave the tip and telling him she was unable to keep it. Firing her was an over-reaction, but a restaurant should have a policy where the waiters should not be allowed to discuss tips with customers. It would avoid confronting customers about tip amounts or being pushy.
However this breaks down if someone drops a huge tip on them. I could understand the other workers being resentful.
Edit: As someone outside the US (in the UK) it’s seeing stuff like this that makes me realise how the “gig culture” type statups took off over there and have spread around the world. This would literally not be legal in the UK.
what a low level of trust
So the owner is seen as evil, the woman is fired, the co-workers are destabilized by their own unluckiness and the termination of their colleague...
I do not understand this fallacy to make a large tip and to advertise it: noise in the restaurant, video to the rest of the world... just to show off!
This is the problem.
Management should not handle tips -- it should be done among the workers themselves. Some places split the tips with the back staff e.g. kitchen and porters.
Once management have collected the tips -- there is too much incentive to keep some of it. Staff will not know how much the tip "pool" is. The transparency is lost and thus trust or accountability.
Filming yourself loudly yelling about how much you're tipping is so incredibly cringeworthy.
If you want to help someone out, just do it. Don't turn your server into a human prop and make a scene for your "look at us helping poor people" social media stunt.
Oven and Tap _was_ one my favorite restaurants. The food _was_ amazing and it is a nice classy atmosphere, but until they apologize for taking legal action against a waitress for telling the truth, I'll be voting with my dollar.
The restaurant is so in the wrong here. They want it both ways: to short change their waiters by deducting 7% of their wage from their paychecks, and to seize tips. Unfortunately this is common practice, but it needs to be eliminated completely.
All the rolling eyes I can muster while recoiling from this postmodern-Dickensian paradise.