The gist of it being, in the original case where this came up, the government claimed the information in classified documents couldn't be used as evidence and thus the case couldn't proceed. The supreme court upheld that request and now the government can always waive their hand and say "classified" and the documents can't be used as evidence. 50 years later, the documents from the original case were declassified and there was no secret or classified information in them, they just proved the government was at fault.
This is really important stuff. I watched a good 25 minutes of the youtube video for Jewel vs. NSA. I really wish lawyers spoke like humans. I understand there's procedure in a courtroom, but it seems like that gets in the way of comprehension.
From what I gathered, the lawyer for the government was arguing to get the case thrown out because the judges don't have the right to decide. One of the judges referred to it as a mobius strip argument. That seemed to piss off the judges.
18:6 So they divided the land between them to pass throughout it: Ahab
went one way by himself, and Obadiah went another way by himself.
18:7 And as Obadiah was in the way, behold, Elijah met him: and he
knew him, and fell on his face, and said, Art thou that my lord
Elijah? 18:8 And he answered him, I am: go, tell thy lord, Behold,
Elijah is here.
18:9 And he said, What have I sinned, that thou wouldest deliver thy
servant into the hand of Ahab, to slay me? 18:10 As the LORD thy God
liveth, there is no nation or kingdom, whither my lord hath not sent
to seek thee: and when they said, He is not there; he took an oath of
the kingdom and nation, that they found thee not.
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http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/383/o... skip to 29:05.
The gist of it being, in the original case where this came up, the government claimed the information in classified documents couldn't be used as evidence and thus the case couldn't proceed. The supreme court upheld that request and now the government can always waive their hand and say "classified" and the documents can't be used as evidence. 50 years later, the documents from the original case were declassified and there was no secret or classified information in them, they just proved the government was at fault.
From what I gathered, the lawyer for the government was arguing to get the case thrown out because the judges don't have the right to decide. One of the judges referred to it as a mobius strip argument. That seemed to piss off the judges.
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20 IF LEN(INKEY$) = 0 THEN PRINT ".";: GOTO 10
30 PRINT "King James Bible, Line:", i
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18:6 So they divided the land between them to pass throughout it: Ahab went one way by himself, and Obadiah went another way by himself.
18:7 And as Obadiah was in the way, behold, Elijah met him: and he knew him, and fell on his face, and said, Art thou that my lord Elijah? 18:8 And he answered him, I am: go, tell thy lord, Behold, Elijah is here.
18:9 And he said, What have I sinned, that thou wouldest deliver thy servant into the hand of Ahab, to slay me? 18:10 As the LORD thy God liveth, there is no nation or kingdom, whither my lord hath not sent to seek thee: and when they said, He is not there; he took an oath of the kingdom and nation, that they found thee not.