Ask HN: Eight Months in and this job is unbearable
So I started a job 8 months ago as a senior data scientist.
So far, it's been horrible. I'm not learning, not allowed to use R/Python, am forced to use Excel, am micromanaged, etc.
I have plenty of savings (10+ years worth).
Just wondered how most of you would approach this situation.
1. Suck it up
2. quit now
3. keep working and quit in a few months
4. other
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[ 3.7 ms ] story [ 94.5 ms ] threadThe best option as someone else has said is lock in the new job before leaving so I’d be getting out there interviewing.
Worst case you have the savings to just leave, my issue with job searching when out of a job is self confidence.. I always interview terribly in those times
You are most fortunate with having lots of savings.
If I were in your situation I would quit now, begin a startup doing what you most enjoy doing and then using that as your current job, seek out an ideal job. If you choose your niche well, you could even be a micro-acquihire.
I left my job of 5 years earlier this year because I was purely burnt out, with only around a year of savings but don't regret it at all. I've had the opportunity to explore spaces I'd never have the chance to do while working at a traditional job, and even if my individual entrepreneurial efforts don't work out, the skills I've picked up while technically unemployed are very attractive to the field that I'm actually working in. Think of it as a full stop pivot in my professional career.
But really, working a job you hate only gets worse and worse. Your productivity will start dropping and you'll start to increasingly feel like crap. Burnout is really rough, and you are almost certainly more valuable than you are being treated at a company like that.
That's what I'd do at least, but yeah your call of course.
If there's one advice I'd say to a younger version of myself, it's to get out faster. Most mistakes lead to building some strength later on, this isn't one of them.
The difference between quitting now and later is that being jobless puts time pressure on getting a new one, so you'll probably miss out on some less urgent companies that take months to interview, and you're more likely to take another bad deal. I think people are not quite picky enough about jobs; 90% of them are bad, same with 90% of the employee pool. So you need some room to go through the interview process and reject bad employers.
The further get into my tech career Im finding out that alot of jobs are bad jobs.
You'll never do good work for a disrespectful employer, no matter how much they pay, and trying to do so will lead to burnout. This also includes self-respect, for certain roles bad for society.
Distrust is more controversial. The downside is it's wasteful and you get micromanaged. The upside is that once you get past enough red tape, everyone trusts each other because there's nothing to distrust.
It's subjective, but if you feel that way, you probably are. e.g. interviewers turning off the camera on om or asking for your pregnancy status.
The objective indicator is Glassdoor. I personally reject interviews for anything below a 3.5 star. They can be wrong like everything else, but the correlation has been strong.
If you're not in the States, then I don't have a ton of advice for you, but I would certainly look around for other options. Life's too short to be miserable 40+ hours per week.
It used to be that the biggest barrier to hiring outside a country was that it was less effective to have them work remotely 100% of the time. But now it's practically the same thing. Some companies are getting bargains, others are just using it to hire the best out of other countries.
Also, why is "suck it up" even an option? Seems literally insane to do that
Because option two seems like an obvious choice with your current skill set and saving. Thus, I feel like you might have other factors in play here.
A. It looks better on your resume. You don't have to explain yourself every time someone asks why you left so early. Explaining yourself like this for years to come whenever you interview is a drag on its own.
B. A few more months will give you time to interview at your pace. Consequently, you will have a better pool of offers and a better gauge of what the market can fetch for you.
C. More time is good for building connections before you leave. I understand you are not learning from your day-to-day operations. However, are there coworkers that you can learn from before you leave? Do you wish to build and maintain bridges with some of these people? Abruptly quitting burns bridges, and it may be better to put conscious effort to build some connections before leaving.
Why not to you?
Heads you win, tails you don’t lose.
If they change it, you win. If they don’t change it, you win because you quit. And you get less pressure while you look.
Of course, I am making the big assumption that he problems are you are describing is not company wide and is localised to your manager/team/department.