Can the language be saved from Ideological Purity wars? After years of noise I'd conceived a moderate interest but the associated religious obligations were daunting. This explosion has just confirmed my reservations were valid, I'm afraid. Pity, there's some interesting technical notions that could be worthy there.
I think the OP means that all too frequently those who advocate the use and adoption of Rust come across to others as bringing certain ideological, social, or political assumptions which can be off-putting to some groups and individuals.
That is just my perception of what could be meant. I am not involved and just watching the developments as a spectator.
I think this blog post is quite promising. It seems like both the specific issue at hand and the larger structural problem of who the core team is accountable to are being addressed. All in all, the handling of this issue on all sides inspires confidence.
This seems to me like a fundamental problem related to tight-coupling in Rust. For contrast in C there is one discussion space handling ISO C standard, different one handling implementation in GCC, different ones handling distribution of libraries (individual Linux distributions) and different many discussions spaces just for talking about coding in C, all these are totally administratively independent. In Rust, everything is tightly-coupled under one societal governance.
This is incredibly verbose and vague. A lot of the VC/ Corporate money seems to have gone into political speech police HR ladies instead of actually advancing the technology, which must somewhat be the point of corporate control over everything. Glad the devs seem to have won this time. The goal is that eventually no one who disagrees with a Microsoft exec's politics will even be allowed to contribute to "free software" because all the big projects are funded by wall street.
- The email is written "on behalf of the top-level team leads, the new mods, the project directors to the Foundation, and the core team"
- The same group is currently trying to handle the problem in private
- The nature of the problem is a disagreement between the old moderation team and core team about an undisclosed moderation issue where the mods believed that the core team had a conflict of interest
- The general plan is to work out a set of rules that would cover this specific disagreement
My take: it will help to separate the specific disagreement from the general rules. The general rules can then be discussed in the open. The private discussion should be reserved to the details of applying these new rules to that specific disagreement.
This is a long and polite way to say: We'll keep private about that issue.
Which is what all companies do. It's part of the politics that is going on there. It's just that a higher expection has been set by the Rust team that they follow higher goals.
One thing is clear, however. Whatever happened, it was not a banality.
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[ 2.9 ms ] story [ 33.7 ms ] threadAs a developer using rust I'm not quite sure what you are refering to.
That is just my perception of what could be meant. I am not involved and just watching the developments as a spectator.
- The email is written "on behalf of the top-level team leads, the new mods, the project directors to the Foundation, and the core team"
- The same group is currently trying to handle the problem in private
- The nature of the problem is a disagreement between the old moderation team and core team about an undisclosed moderation issue where the mods believed that the core team had a conflict of interest
- The general plan is to work out a set of rules that would cover this specific disagreement
My take: it will help to separate the specific disagreement from the general rules. The general rules can then be discussed in the open. The private discussion should be reserved to the details of applying these new rules to that specific disagreement.
I see no actual updates in it, only super careful language assuring the reader that the cause of the original problem is still being worked on.
Well... okay? Why did we need this fluff piece pumped full of perfumed language though?
Which is what all companies do. It's part of the politics that is going on there. It's just that a higher expection has been set by the Rust team that they follow higher goals.
One thing is clear, however. Whatever happened, it was not a banality.