I had that same though, seemed about the same amount of GUI as a stock Safari. The title might need a comma: "A minimal, GUI web browser". It's not a "minimal GUI".
It looks identical to my Firefox except the + is on the other side. The icons are the same. (I have a userChrome.css that removes all the dumbass padding newer releases of Firefox added.)
I was almost like "my mother would love this!!" but then I realized that the floating clock app we had on her computer was specifically an analog clock, not a digital clock, as she found that easier.
Looks like similar to Falkon, which hasn't seen an update in a while. Maybe KDE could support this project? It would be great to have minimal alternative browser in KDE Apps, like Epiphany (GNOME Web) on GNOME.
I dream about a fully integrated, state-of-the-art web browser for KDE. Even I've been saying this for years, but always am replied with "we already have Firefox/Chrome" argument.
But it seems they actually don't care about it. From 4.x on, every web browser they touch is just left to die for some reason (Konqueror, reKonq which was allegedly being supported by Blue Systems, now Qupzilla/Falkon)... Even the noise about Ken Vermette's "Fiber" at the early days of "KDE5" ended being only that, just noise.
I never used KDE for a very long time, but my first Linux distro (Caldera OpenLinux -IIRC- version 2.3, which i still consider the best put together distro in terms of how things worked with each other, especially considering it came out in late 1999) used KDE1 and i used KDE3 via Slax in some school computers years ago. One of my favorite aspects of KDE was Konqueror and how well integrated it felt with the rest of the desktop.
I was disappointed when i learned that KDE decided to replace Konqueror with Dolphin.
Yes, but what i liked back then was how integrated it felt. Opening any html file opened inside Konqueror, opening a folder with an index.html file showed the page (with a toolbar button to toggle it), back/forward buttons worked seamlessly, being able to drag-and-drop files seamlessly, etc.
Not even Win98/ME (which introduced those features) felt that integrated.
And not just that, Konqueror (still) handles a lot of protocols. man://foobar will show you the man page for foobar with links to other man pages actually working. smb:// will browse a samba share. fish:// and sftp:// for remote ssh access. It really felt like a perfectly integrated everything viewer.
It isn't part of KDE/Plasma ever since KDE4 AFAIK. It is "there" in the sense that you can find it in KDE's website and some distributions provide it, but it isn't the KDE file/web/whatever manager anymore.
Also the functionality i described above doesn't exist anymore in current Konqueror - doubleclicking on an .html file doesn't open it inside Konqueror (not even selecting "open in tab" does - even though it does open an empty tab that does nothing :-P), it opens it in Firefox (or whatever browser you have installed i guess). Index.html in folders is not handled anymore and the option to toggle/enable it is also gone.
This is from a quick test i just did with Konqueror available from openSUSE Tumbleweed's repository right now. Also it crashed twice and the settings window had some missing icons and other weird glitches, both of which basically show that it barely receives any attention nowadays.
Reinventing Firefox or chromium is a fools errand. These are codebases with millions of lines of code added every year. What we need is a new specification for the web that is small and limited. Maybe we need to break apart the current specs into smaller specs so it is more feasible to build competing products.
Things like Gemini are making such an attempt to focus on document reading.
The modern browser is an operating system and it takes millions upon millions of dollars to build and maintain.
Last time I checked, they use Qt's Webkit, which had been removed from Qt a few years ago, which at that point was already years old (in favor of Webengine), andere Konqueror hasnt been updates since, and I couldn't detect any efforts to port to Webengine.
Ie you'd be using a browser from 2015, without security updates.
Well, it does have the feature of apparently being trivial to build (i build it with just qmake && make) as it only needs Qt5 (of course then you also need to build Qt5 if you don't have that, which will have a ton of dependencies for itself).
there should be an application layer protocol and corresponding browser that only transmits things that do not require a large corporation for the creation and maintenance of the software that is used to display those things. why would i describe it that way instead of some other way? because that is really the core of the issue. we can focus on making the web simpler for the sake of user experience but what really matters is whether a new web would have many smaller organizations maintaining browsers or just one huge company maintaining the browser that 99% of people use. in the former case, browsers are subject to a market and would therefore be faster, safer, better maintained and conform to the preferences of the user, ie open source and no spyware. in the latter case the browser is only good if you are lucky, the well-being of a single company has a disproportionate impact on the ability of people to browse the web and their browser will probably spy on you.
javascript was created because we didnt know how the web would be used. now that the web is part of everyones lives and we know basically how we use it and what role it plays, what reason is there for this giant lumbering mess that is javascript that needs an army of people to interpret and is the source of countless security problems?
I don't think it was about specific algorithms, but about the entire system. And AFAICT it is often said by people who have monetary incentives to convince others hire them, so i'd take it with a grain of salt or two.
It seems okay. I built it on Arch this morning and the only thing I can't get it to do is save bookmarks (favorites) - any ideas? The gopher support is very welcome as I run a gopher server.
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[ 3.3 ms ] story [ 110 ms ] thread> Original implementations of AES-256, Threefish-256.
> Native graphing of data.
> Floating digital clock.
etc.
*Without NetSurf.
But it seems they actually don't care about it. From 4.x on, every web browser they touch is just left to die for some reason (Konqueror, reKonq which was allegedly being supported by Blue Systems, now Qupzilla/Falkon)... Even the noise about Ken Vermette's "Fiber" at the early days of "KDE5" ended being only that, just noise.
I was disappointed when i learned that KDE decided to replace Konqueror with Dolphin.
Not even Win98/ME (which introduced those features) felt that integrated.
Also the functionality i described above doesn't exist anymore in current Konqueror - doubleclicking on an .html file doesn't open it inside Konqueror (not even selecting "open in tab" does - even though it does open an empty tab that does nothing :-P), it opens it in Firefox (or whatever browser you have installed i guess). Index.html in folders is not handled anymore and the option to toggle/enable it is also gone.
This is from a quick test i just did with Konqueror available from openSUSE Tumbleweed's repository right now. Also it crashed twice and the settings window had some missing icons and other weird glitches, both of which basically show that it barely receives any attention nowadays.
Things like Gemini are making such an attempt to focus on document reading.
The modern browser is an operating system and it takes millions upon millions of dollars to build and maintain.
[1] https://apps.kde.org/konqueror/
Ie you'd be using a browser from 2015, without security updates.
(It’s still around but it’s moving to Electron.)
*Thinking of PPC Macs (both OSX and OS9) as well as old *nix workstations.
https://github.com/textbrowser/dooble
What's the point? Is this a hobby? Does this have some kind of feature (beyond being open source)?
I mean, that's nice if the point is that the browser is a hobby browser or intended for general education about developing your own browser.
But what's the compelling reason to use the browser? What's the advantage?
Perhaps it could be a neat starting point for a new browser or its little code could make it easy to customize.
javascript was created because we didnt know how the web would be used. now that the web is part of everyones lives and we know basically how we use it and what role it plays, what reason is there for this giant lumbering mess that is javascript that needs an army of people to interpret and is the source of countless security problems?
> both implementations of AES and Threefish are written by the author(s)