... in spite of alienating millions of users in their quixotic quest to purge it. Maybe time to accept that "hate speech" is as an inescapable byproduct of human communication as much as it is undefinable?
One could use Darwinian methods, where "hate speech" carries a higher risk of 'predation' ie = terminal modding.
There may be a way to use recursive bots who look back at assorted offender threads and detect a pattern. A person who reserves his venom for a few select threads, and on all the other threads he comments on he is, as Mae West said, 'pure as the driven snow...'
The bot would need to be able to detect places, where, as Mae West also said - 'but I drifted'
The unpaid mods should be honored for their work, and work with these bots to increase the level of persistent detection and harassment of the hate speakers.
'Eternal vigilence = price of freedom' - someone said.
I’ve only used Reddit’s report function maybe twice. Both times were for shockingly egregious comments. Well beyond even common inflammatory banter, and including vague threats of violence from someone who was clearly not well.
Both times I received the same response that Reddit had reviewed the comments and they were fine.
I’m actually kind of shocked that Reddit gets a free pass for this behavior while heavily moderated sites like Facebook are blamed for social issues. The type of content that thrives on the worst parts of Reddit is easily some of the worst I’ve seen on any major social media website.
They will, however, purge specific subreddits when they become big enough to attract media attention. The users just migrate to some other subreddit and pick up right where they left off, though.
Isolated groups build themselves into an enclave where any and all can be attacked, unless there is a vigilant group of moderators in rapid contact with the correct higher level, to chastise/punish/delete one or more offenders. On Reddit with throw-away accounts they will soon be back, but even the strongest mole slinks away after a few whacks.
The solution is enough paid mods in enough numbers that the 1/2 life of a racist comment is only seconds, and only then will the PITA of creating throw-aways that die in seconds/minutes exceed the venal pleasure the racists get from it - they are, after all, not that smart - smart people have lives and better things to do.
Sadly more paid mods = more $$ and $$ are not limitless, so we get the current standoff.
Solution - decrease utility of new accounts, perhaps with referrals, so if an account has a referral from a known good member, he can read at the start and post after 1...n days. Then if he gets banned, the referrer gets a (short) ban -1 week?. They will soon learn not to hand out referrals to goons.
It is an analog of war, you can use 'economic methods' to chastise until the proper behaviour results, which whack, short ban, longer ban - nuclear ban = never let back. A lot of this could be boticised, and I think it could work within the current $$ restraints.
reddit is the most heavily censored sites on the net...lol...twitter,facebook..youtube..all the same...this is juts more fluff to ban & censor more voices who upset the safe spaces that these parasite companies like to maintain....#LegacyMediaIsPropagnda
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[ 3.3 ms ] story [ 35.3 ms ] threadI think you are dramatically overestimating the number of users who:
- disagree with purging hateful content in the first place;
- actually follow through on their promise^W threat to leave; and
- stay gone
Both times I received the same response that Reddit had reviewed the comments and they were fine.
I’m actually kind of shocked that Reddit gets a free pass for this behavior while heavily moderated sites like Facebook are blamed for social issues. The type of content that thrives on the worst parts of Reddit is easily some of the worst I’ve seen on any major social media website.
They will, however, purge specific subreddits when they become big enough to attract media attention. The users just migrate to some other subreddit and pick up right where they left off, though.
https://reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/s1jjs0/
Reddit allows hate speech and tells their volunteer moderators, 'Nothing to see here'.