Ask HN: What US-hosted, non-Google email service do you use?

20 points by n2xe ↗ HN
I'd like to de-Google but do want the data hosted in the US, so no Protonmail or Fastmail. Also not interested in rolling my own mail server.

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protonmail.com
Proton servers are not in the U.S. and when I came upon this thread the question explicitly stated not Proton.
I didnt know, thanks for telling me...

So where should I look?

Proton email servers are in Geneva I believe. But isn't that better than being in the US?
We need a "De-Googling Guide" here on HN... just like the thread of a "De-Microsoftian Windows install" which I am about to endevour on.

A Privacy online guide curated by tech-savvy HNers would be a welcome birth to the world.

We NEED digital privacy. Full Stop.

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I have been a happy paying customer of Zoho for years now. I know they have data servers in the US and other countries. Apparently they base their data center location on your IP address. I assume that the decision is made during account creation, but you would have to ask their support for clarification. In my experience they will actually find the answer and respond to you with human support. It’s kind of amazing these days.

https://www.zoho.com/know-your-datacenter.html

I switched this week from Google, and it was very painless. They have clear instructions to setup API access (which has about a million steps, because Google...) so they can port everything over.
Apple via iCloud+. For $2.99/mo I get email w/ custom domain, photo storage, VPN, password manager, and more. It's hard to beat. They have a few data centers outside the US, but I think if you're a US customer email is hosted in US.
> It's hard to beat.

It is easy to beat, if you use any non-Apple OS or want a good browser email experience. It is only hard to beat if you're already deep into Apple's ecosystem with nothing else on the horizon.

Why do you want data to be hosted in the US?
I just moved my family to outlook.com, Office 365 Family allows up to 6 people for $99/yr (total), and supports custom domains.
Am I the only one who thinks Outlook spam detection is awful?
I'm giving purelymail a chance when I lose my Google Workspace accounts later this year (not willing to pay US$288/year for four own-domain email addresses).

The whole point of having "vanity domain" email addresses - for 20 years now! - has been to be easily migratable when something changes in the cloud. So I'll just do that again if purelymail doesn't work out. It's very cheap; I get the impression you're paying just enough for the sole proprietor to pay his AWS bills and be "ramen profitable". Who knows how long this will last.

Impression of the service with my other domain, whose MX records I've already switched, have been pretty good.

Note on the 20 years: Got the domain, ran completely on-premises email infrastructure for a few years, then switched to "Google Apps for your domain" when it became available.

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I've been using hey.com - it's great.
MXroute is an option. I've used the service minimally, but haven't had any issues within that limited context.