Nothing worse than Batch processed vegan food fit for prisons and schools. Vegan food is for wealthy socialites not suitable or good for mass production/consumption
Clarence Birdseye would disagree. If freezing and/or refrigeration isn't an option, use shelf-stable or canned vegetables. Nuts, dried grains & legumes, etc. are clearly not going to be an issue. IRL there would likely be a combination in use at schools (and I advocate prisons) in the US and other developed countries.
In other places, people eat rather well without various food preservative technologies, particularly if there's no meat or dairy to worry about.
“vegan veggie tacos, Mediterranean chickpeas and black bean and plantain rice bowls.”
Idk sounds good to me.
Eating vegan is various combinations of grains, beans, lentils, vegetables and herbs. All of which are mass producible and cheaper than meat and dairy. Especially when factoring in that meat and dairy is heavily subsidized.
If you or I made it, it would likely be good. Although I don't eat as many vegan meals as I should, I enjoy them. At "school food" quality, probably not so much.
These are the people that make pizza almost inedible.
I don't know why every day isn't Vegan day in American prisons.
One might imagine moderately intelligent planning would move food costs even lower than they already are (for example, no meat substitute products, but instead things like bean patties). The management of various religious diets would become much easier as well. The head of the state DOC and the governor could take credit for spearheading a healthy eating initiative that improves the well-being of inmates and reduces recidivism, acts responsibly with taxpayer dollars, safeguards our environment, etc. Bonus points for crops grown locally or by the prison itself.
The latter isn't that uncommon: for example, Valley State Prison and the Central California Women's Facility (very close to one other in Chowchilla) are surrounded by orchards that are partially worked with prison labor, and whose produce goes to the entire state prison system.
Because barely edible and slow-poisoning food isn't a bug of the American prison system -- it's a feature. In, they're proud of the "whitebread and baloney" diet they feed these people.
Not that vegan food can't be barely edible and slow-poisoning either, of course. But it's a lot easier to get to that desired stat with a high-meat diet.
True, but I'd allow meat/fish/etc. to be sold in the commissary. The meat producers might even make more depending upon margins.
The lawsuits would be entertaining — hard to claim it's "cruel" given we make children eat vegan (the point of this thread), and the daily life of millions of people proves it's not "unusual".
> Last month, the main courses offered on meatless Fridays included grilled cheese sandwiches, mac and cheese and mozzarella sticks. February’s Friday entrees, are vegan veggie tacos, Mediterranean chickpeas and black bean and plantain rice bowls.
I think calling these new meals “vegan” almost buries the lede, in that they are also the first meals made of vegetables.
So basically kids were eating melted cheese and bread for lunch.
The problem I see with some of these meals (and I say this from having a cafeteria at work) is that some of them sound great on paper but they are not fit for mass production and sitting in a lukewarm vat for 2hs.
School cafeteria food is the nutrition-of-last-resort for many American children.
There are obvious environmental and health benefits to making the American diet more plant-based, but given the nutritional and caloric density that lean meat can offer, I'm not sure that depriving kids without enough good food at home the option to eat meat at school is a good thing.
I don't know what NYC public school is like compared to the average district, but doesn't the general problem of low quality, highly processed food in schools dwarf the issue of meat?
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[ 2.2 ms ] story [ 45.6 ms ] threadI hope schools avoid the highly processed version of vegan foods that currently exist.
In other places, people eat rather well without various food preservative technologies, particularly if there's no meat or dairy to worry about.
Idk sounds good to me.
Eating vegan is various combinations of grains, beans, lentils, vegetables and herbs. All of which are mass producible and cheaper than meat and dairy. Especially when factoring in that meat and dairy is heavily subsidized.
These are the people that make pizza almost inedible.
One might imagine moderately intelligent planning would move food costs even lower than they already are (for example, no meat substitute products, but instead things like bean patties). The management of various religious diets would become much easier as well. The head of the state DOC and the governor could take credit for spearheading a healthy eating initiative that improves the well-being of inmates and reduces recidivism, acts responsibly with taxpayer dollars, safeguards our environment, etc. Bonus points for crops grown locally or by the prison itself.
The latter isn't that uncommon: for example, Valley State Prison and the Central California Women's Facility (very close to one other in Chowchilla) are surrounded by orchards that are partially worked with prison labor, and whose produce goes to the entire state prison system.
Not that vegan food can't be barely edible and slow-poisoning either, of course. But it's a lot easier to get to that desired stat with a high-meat diet.
https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000008091680/climat...
The lawsuits would be entertaining — hard to claim it's "cruel" given we make children eat vegan (the point of this thread), and the daily life of millions of people proves it's not "unusual".
I think calling these new meals “vegan” almost buries the lede, in that they are also the first meals made of vegetables.
The problem I see with some of these meals (and I say this from having a cafeteria at work) is that some of them sound great on paper but they are not fit for mass production and sitting in a lukewarm vat for 2hs.
There are obvious environmental and health benefits to making the American diet more plant-based, but given the nutritional and caloric density that lean meat can offer, I'm not sure that depriving kids without enough good food at home the option to eat meat at school is a good thing.
I don't know what NYC public school is like compared to the average district, but doesn't the general problem of low quality, highly processed food in schools dwarf the issue of meat?