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> Everyone in my mentions saying Safari is the worst, it’s the new IE… Can you point to specific bugs & missing support that frustrate you, inhibit you making websites/apps. Bonus points for links to tickets. Specifics we can fix. Vague hate is honestly super counterproductive.

Don't expect users to understand why they hate Safari. Due to the nature of the Apple ecosystem, it's Apple's job alone to figure out what their users want. That's why Safari will never be able to compete with the open source browsers.

Yeah. The platform monopoly is repulsive.

However good they are today, however much Project Fugu they finally opt into (letting webapps do regular app like things, like webusb), there's no promise tomorrows innovation gets uptake, or at any schedule.

Authoritarian software is bad. This company needs healthy politics g discourse, rather than being the swaggering giant colossus.

But add webmidi, webusb, sure, please. Stop your war on features, stop trying to prevent a competitive web platform. Figure out your shit, figure out whatever it is you need to do to stop making excuses, to making "security" and "privacy" a trump card to ignore platform growth.

An easy path for Apple to find data is simply to look for codepaths in web apps that are webkit-specific. They can take simple approaches like looking for usage of safari-specific CSS extensions are user agent sniffing, or invest more and actually profile running applications to observe unique codepaths taken on Safari vs. other browsers. I don't think anyone ever got to their keyboard and thought "I hope I get to re-implement my feature to work on Safari today!".
My guess is that not supporting WebExtensions like Safari and Firefox is also a big factor.
It doesn't allow access to http://localhost from HTTPS pages unlike basically every other major browser.