Show HN: We want to help startups poach engineers from Google and Apple (loftjobs.com)

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Hey HN,

All our startup friends are having trouble finding good engineers to hire, while some of our friends who work at big companies are looking for new challenges.

But they don't read HN or TC. They don't know where to start looking.

So we put together a place for the best opportunities.

We'd love some feedback, ideas or suggestions...

Some people call us "The Ashley Madison of Job sites".

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Hey HN,

All our startup friends are having trouble finding good engineers to hire, while some of our friends who work at big companies are looking for new challenges.

But they don't read HN or TC. They don't know where to start looking.

So we put together a place for the best opportunities.

We'd love feedback!

Some people call us "The Ashley Madison of Job sites".

tip: don't call it the The Ashley Madison of job sites
I like the idea, although I'd be careful - I'd imagine the various companies involved might not be too keen on such direct action against them. Is this something you've investigated, in terms of their/your legal standpoint or indeed how these companies react to recruiters approaching their employees?
That said, based on things we read here, there certainly seems to be a demand for this kind of thing - just letting people see what they could do could be the catalyst to get them into start-ups from some of these bigger companies.
"Only current employees at the bay areas top tech companies are invited to look at our positions. "

So unless the HN readership is largely made up of employees of Google and Apple, why exactly should they care? There seems to be an implied equivalence of "works at big company" with "is a high quality engineer", which is a little dubious when you include companies like IBM and Adobe.Any startup that restricts recruiting efforts to "big companies" must be really really dumb. Why would good engineers want to work for them in the first place?

Adobe? IBM? Does anyone think focusing on these companies gives you a better chance of finding better engineers?

"The startups you'll find at LoftJobs are the next Googles and Facebooks "

Oh please. If you know that with any degree of confidence, you should be investing every dollar you can get your hands on in them vs asking people to fill your databases for free. The first thing to learn about talking to good engineers is to avoid easily dismantled exaggerations and keep it factual.

I'm sure calling yourself "The Ashley Madison of Job sites" inspires confidence in your target population ;)

I suspect really good engineers at the big companies in the Bay Area are fairly informed about the startup scene (or can ask friends who are plugged in) and can get a job in a startup of their choice fairly trivially without a middleman.

In any case, How do we know that loftjobs actually has some kind of exclusive job listings from these interesting startups that aren't available elsewhere? What makes your claims credible? Is this some kind of recruiter spam trying to get HN readers to do their work of populating their database for them?

Hi, cofounder of Loftjobs here. Our target user isn't "plugged-in" into the startup world like most HN readers. He/she probably has a vague interest in startups but doesn't know where to start.

We put together the developer positions at some exciting startups - this is a great place to start.

I promise this isn't recruiter spam :-) We're hoping the savvy readers at HN could give us some feedback on both the site and the idea.

Cheers,

Ted

I like the "only emails from X companies can join". Reminds me of how Facebook started :)

Why not focus on 1 company? Illegal?

We are considering narrowing the companies down even further - we wanted to see what the reception was with this current list. You're spot on with your FB comment.

TR

What are you going to do if Apple block all emails from your website, or monitor employees who receive emails from your website? It could hurt them in their current job?
This is just a start. We have some other ways to sign up in the pipeline.