This is definitely a much harder game for my brain than I thought it'd be. It really does feel like you're solving this with your hands behind your back.
I had the same idea but thought it could be an addition to the original game. That is, once you have solved today's game, you are given a pattern of yellow and green squares (could be made into a 5x6 image to make it interesting) and you enter new guesses to match the pattern knowing the day's solution.
It feels easier to me too, but still fun. It seems like there aren’t as many constraints as in wordle, so you can solve each line independently
When I first opened the link I thought we would have to guess the exact words, in reverse order. But that seems like it would be difficult
Edit: maybe it’s just how I play wordle? I try to minimize reusing burned letters in wordle since they don’t add information. There’s no penalty in reversle for repeating what would be burned letters so it’s easier to template match. It would be interesting to maybe add that constraint to reversle, but then you might have to go back and change earlier lines if you guess wrong
I was thinking about it just now, and I think the hard mode could be similar to hard mode on wordle, where you don’t drop any green letters once you get them. That would strike a balance between being a bit challenging but not being impossible without lots of multiline guesses maybe?
Anyway thanks for building reversle, one of the cooler wordle variants IMO!
It does feel quite easy, but it makes sense since there must be a ton of words matching each of the patterns, and they are independent of each other. I wonder if having to match the hard mode Wordle constraints would make it too hard.
(I.e. no placing a letter in a in position where it gives you no new information.)
Great idea! Having to fill the rows in order is a bit frustrating since even if you think you know a later line, you don't get to even try it until you get the ones before it. I don't think order matters in theory, does it? (I've only played the original game once so I might be missing something)
I made this reversle solver a while back, where you put in the pattern and solution and it gives you the possible words. I used it to draw pictures (like flowers) and write poems.
It's cool!! If you are as lazy as me, you can add a breakpoint on file 134-4c2dd2397d6f8366.js on function OnEnter and execute this code for find the solution in browser console :P
equalArray = function arraysEqual(a, b) {
if (a === b) return true;
if (a == null || b == null) return false;
if (a.length !== b.length) return false;
for (var i = 0; i < a.length; ++i) {
if (a[i] !== b[i]) return false;
}
return true;
}
M.solution.colors.forEach(wordToGuess=>{
let flag =false;
c.forEach(item=>{
let result=b(item.toUpperCase(),M.solution.word);
if(!flag && equalArray(result,wordToGuess)){
console.log(item)
flag=true;
}
});
# Written at an ungodly hour may be bug riddled enjoy
def is_valid(word, conditions, final_guess):
"""
Checks if it is a valid guess
- word => The word in question
- conditions => The conditions. A string of 5 characters. '-' means a grey cell, 'G' is a green cell and 'y' is a yellow cell.
- final_guess => The final guess.
"""
if len(word) != 5:
return False
for i in range(5):
if conditions[i] == "G":
if word[i] != final_guess[i]:
return False
if conditions[i] == "-":
if word[i] in final_guess:
return False
if conditions[i] == "y":
if word[i] not in final_guess[:i] and word[i] not in final_guess[i+1:] or word[i] == final_guess[i]:
return False
return True
## How to use
with open("/usr/share/dict/words") as f:
for line in f:
word = line.strip()
## Replace with appropiate parameters.
if not is_valid(word, "--yy-", "piano"):
continue
print(word)
Nice. This last weekend, I took the time to teach my son RegEx so he could find potential Wordle solutions. Playing around, trying to find fun starting words, we were looking for words that contained the most number of vowels. Afterwards I realized that our RegEx found just the words with 4 vowels in a row. Now I’m racking my brain to come up with the RegEx to find all 5 letter words with 4 vowels anywhere. It’s easy to create 5 different RegEx, each for a different consonant position, but how do you make a single query?
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The issue is not that the words are "random", it’s that they are exceedingly poorly chosen to tease out more hints.
The third row reuses two letters that were already revealed in the first row to not occur in the solution, and reuses a third letter at the correct position already revealed in the second row, but omitting a another letter whose correct position was also revealed in the second row. That is, it is clear that this can’t be the solution word, because of the two letters already known to not occur, and because of omitting one known-position letter. And if it was an attempt to tease out more letters, then the guess doesn’t make much sense either because only one of the five letters hadn’t been tried yet in the previous rows.
The fourth row again uses a letter already known to not occur, while reusing two letters already known to occur, but one of them at a known-wrong position. (Of course the letter in question could occur twice, but I don’t think there’s an English word matching “pi_p_”.) Furthermore, none of the letters that are new in the fourth row are likely to occur in the solution, given what’s already known at that point (in fact I don’t think there are any potential solution words where they would fit). So again this is neither an attempt to guess the solution nor a good attempt at teasing out more letters.
I think the game is more open ended than that, there are multiple possibilities for each row. Some are more strategic than others. Like others I found the game itself more difficult than I expected, but ultimately playing from the strategic perspective I’ve heard expressed by others was what let me play through.
When will the wordle clones subside? This one, like some others, isn't bad but it's not good either.Everyone plays Wordle and it's unlikely any of these clones will take its place.
If you want to make a personal project then cool: go for it. Does it belong on HN though? It's not interesting when it's the 100th clone on the 100th day. But, alas that is what upvotes are for I guess.
If we're talking about the same posts - would we call them clones?
They seem like different games, with different rules. They may be inspired by the original game in some way, but they seem like creative offerings of their own merit, and it's interesting to see the ways different people's minds go with it.
I think I'd personally call a clone a "re-implementation of the same concept".
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[ 0.23 ms ] story [ 101 ms ] threadWhen I first opened the link I thought we would have to guess the exact words, in reverse order. But that seems like it would be difficult
Edit: maybe it’s just how I play wordle? I try to minimize reusing burned letters in wordle since they don’t add information. There’s no penalty in reversle for repeating what would be burned letters so it’s easier to template match. It would be interesting to maybe add that constraint to reversle, but then you might have to go back and change earlier lines if you guess wrong
Anyway thanks for building reversle, one of the cooler wordle variants IMO!
(I.e. no placing a letter in a in position where it gives you no new information.)
Here you go, now you know.
Thank you for the feedback!
https://jse.li/wordle-reverse/
Flowers: https://twitter.com/__jesse_li/status/1480341968110690309
Poem: https://twitter.com/__jesse_li/status/1480768147875667971
However, it's just a single 400ish line html file with mediocre code.
equalArray = function arraysEqual(a, b) {
}M.solution.colors.forEach(wordToGuess=>{
});def is_valid(word, conditions, final_guess):
## How to usewith open("/usr/share/dict/words") as f:
The third row reuses two letters that were already revealed in the first row to not occur in the solution, and reuses a third letter at the correct position already revealed in the second row, but omitting a another letter whose correct position was also revealed in the second row. That is, it is clear that this can’t be the solution word, because of the two letters already known to not occur, and because of omitting one known-position letter. And if it was an attempt to tease out more letters, then the guess doesn’t make much sense either because only one of the five letters hadn’t been tried yet in the previous rows.
The fourth row again uses a letter already known to not occur, while reusing two letters already known to occur, but one of them at a known-wrong position. (Of course the letter in question could occur twice, but I don’t think there’s an English word matching “pi_p_”.) Furthermore, none of the letters that are new in the fourth row are likely to occur in the solution, given what’s already known at that point (in fact I don’t think there are any potential solution words where they would fit). So again this is neither an attempt to guess the solution nor a good attempt at teasing out more letters.
If you want to make a personal project then cool: go for it. Does it belong on HN though? It's not interesting when it's the 100th clone on the 100th day. But, alas that is what upvotes are for I guess.
I was thinking about a similar reverse-wordle clone, but focusing on mind-reading between friends. The core idea:
1. uploads your full wordle solution screenshot (with each guess) to the server. The server does an OCR and store it.
2. get shareable links from server, send to friends. Each friend gets a unique link
3. friends guess what you guessed.
4. you can see how well each friend guess