Of all the variants I've come across so far, I think this one has the most staying power. I think I might prefer it to the original.
I do kind of wish you got one more guess, though, especially if you get stuck, like I did today, having 4 Greens but 5 possibilities for the final letter.
4 states x 5 letters x 9 guesses is only 180 possible stoplight strings (of green/yellow/gray/black), if I'm doing my math right? So you could just pick 180 emoji and use four of them :)
I thought about this as well, but sadly, last I checked some decently popular apps (Twitter, WhatsApp, some others) don't support emojis in URL paths, only in domain names. So the emoji technique could work for message threads in some apps, but it would look pretty strange in others.
(I've been helping @DungZeekFu a bit with Quordle and am curious for any ideas around this though!)
Well, you need 180 characters, so are there 90 good usable characters, or 60, or 45 that will work?
I’m not suggesting doing a full UTF mapping onto base64, but just 1..180 mod 3 => char base64[3] would give you 182 board positions in three URL characters.
base64 would be pretty neat! I also wonder what non-emoji unicode characters are commonly supported in paths... If say, CJK character sets were supported by most apps, single-character paths would even work.
I could see something like this beating out the original. Wordle has to be 1x/day because there are only a couple thousand common 5-letter words (around 2300, if I recall correctly). It would turn repetitive. This game has O(N^4) combinations, so it can be played over and over.
I agree that Quordle is compelling but not sure I see your argument for how Wordle would get repetitive. 2300 is six years worth of words. They could shuffle the word list every 4 years and it’d be fine.
I think a big part of what makes Wordle compelling is the ritualistic daily nature so not seeing how this would beat it out.
BTW, I should say I have gotten it 2 out of the 3 times I've played it so far, so it's probably enough guesses, just today I really wished there was one more.
Next up: 10K wordle. You have unlimited guesses and must avoid guessing any word not in the final list of 10000 solution words. Your score is the number of right guesses before you miss a guess.
It would be wonderful if this style of game had the option to render all the letters in lowercase, my brain just seems to treat different case symbols as representing different letters.
Perhaps the keyboard keys should be split horizontally, so each shows 8 colours. Being used to wordle and quordle I was a bit confused because it didn't look like one of the letters was in my word, but it was. 4,12,8,6,5,3,10,13
Nice, but seems to use a fairly restrictive word list compared to other games; might make it more attractive to some people as I have friends who say that "ZA" sums up everything wrong with scrabble in one word...
Thanks for the feedback! Do you mean in the square itself or the possible guess words? Tried to calibrate the square itself for a good balance between challenge and reasonably common words.
That is fair! I feel like those should definitely be allowed. I am using a wordlist based on this: http://wordlist.aspell.net/12dicts-readme/ which is public domain and has about 6k 5-letter words, compared to the Wordles 12k. If anybody knows any other good royalty free wordlists I would definitely be interested. :)
Been playing this one for a while, and I love it. I know it won't always line up this way, but the other day I was able to fill in 4 remaining words with 3 guesses and finished with a score of 8, felt great.
Phew, 7/9/4/5. Got the last one with a pretty wild guess at the end. This was the most fun Wordle variation I’ve come across so far, will definitely come back to play tomorrow.
This game is pretty cool but it doesn't play well on desktops because you have to scroll to see all four words. In my opinion it would be better to have all four side by side instead of trying to fit a mobile design for desktop websites.
This is getting close to by idea of "Borgle = Boggle + Wordle".
Basically the idea is there is a boggle board generated and all N-letter word paths found. The paths are made available to click on (there are a few UI approaches to this). Once a path is selected you enter Wordle mode for that path. Every guess must still be a real word, but the neat part is if you even nail a single letter, it appears on the Boggle board. And that letter immediately appears as solved on any other path that overlaps it. You can jump/revisit paths at any time.
Goal is to complete the board (unsure if there will be guess limit, letters that are not on any path of course are automatically visible/correct on game start). The completion sharing will be a matrix of numbers instead of colors showing how many guesses of that space across any path were made until the first right letter was achieved. Boggle board size configurable as is the min/max word letters (5x5 w/ only 5-letter words by default).
There are some neat strategies here of path choice/switching and guessing wrong words intentionally in overlapping paths. Will dev if I ever get the time, but feel free to steal the idea and make it.
Going to echo all the other positive comments. This is the most fun variation I have played. On my first try I failed to complete it, then went and did a practice round with some smarter initial word choices and won (barely!)
Suggestion: I play and share Dordles via screenshots. I'd like to do the same with this but I don't want to use two screenshots (have to scroll down). Can you have an option to sit these side by side?
As many of you I took a jab at a wordle solver. That wasn't so hard.
Then I said, how can I guarantee as a human, I win, in 6 moves almost 100% of the time?
"Quick Brown Fox", as in, use as many possible letters in the alphabet, comprised of 5 letter words, given that we have only 5 words to play with. That gives us 25 characters to use.
I came up with
BLOCK
VENTS
JUMPY
DWARF
GHAZI
this leaves out Q and X, which is fine. Using this as a template basically boils Wordle down to a anagram game, so kind of defeats the purpose.
But in this case, i was able to resolve all 4 at one time using my above combination. I guessed, correctly all 4 with PLUMB GLEAN VALID IMPLY. I then realized, you get even more chances on Quordle, but I didn't need it!
True, if you are only shooting to solve it in 9 then it can be easy with the right strategy. But many in our friend group are no longer satisfied with 9 and want 7 or fewer guesses :)
A nice implementation, I really enjoy the practice tab. As many suggested already, it plays poorly on desktops/laptops, I have to scroll to see all four words, would be nice to see horizontally arranged windows.
It's really cool! one small request: Can you switch the colors for "guessed, not in word" and "not guessed yet" letters on the keyboard? It's opposite from the original and makes it confusing.
I do, which is how I immediately noticed it was there when I went to the site. I'm just not a big fan of the "I've got mine so screw everyone else" mentality and I'm happy to suggest making simple changes that will improve things for others.
Hey my partner plays a lot of quordle and had the following feedback:
Three things:
1. Love it! Thank you!
2. Could there be a better contrast between keyboard letters and the game board? They’re a bit too similar. I use dark mode, but it seems there is the same lack of definition in light mode as well.
3. Is there any way the whole game could be visible on mobile (e.g. iPhone12 Max) so the last few rows of the game board don’t need to be scrolled?
If you need CSS help or help with the responsive design, let me know! I'd be happy to help. Switched from Wordle after NYT to Quordle and definitely prefer the challenge of Quordle.
One of today’s words appeared recently. I don’t know how many 5-letter words there are, but I feel like the optimal time between appearances should be a bit longer. (Not to mention this word is an alternative spelling, which may be frustrating to some.)
Mine are ANGST, PERKY, CHILD and JUMBO. It's interesting how many sets of 4 words with disjoint letters are out there. It took me quite a while to come up with my set, somehow I didn't realize there would be so many other sets that work equally well.
I have less fun with that sort of strategy (I like hard mode in Wordle). But in this variant I find it exceedingly difficult if I don't employ this sort of strategy.
I find it quite easy to beat Quordle so the challenge I aim for is trying to get all four words within six guesses. Managed it three times since yesterday. Requires some riskier tactics so it eventually broke my 30+ game streak.
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Daily Quordle #22
7⃣ 6⃣
9⃣ 4⃣
vs.
Daily Quordle #23
7⃣ 6⃣
9⃣ 4⃣ quordle.com ⬜⬜⬜ ⬜⬜⬜ ⬜⬜⬜ ⬜⬜ ⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜⬜ ⬜⬜⬜ ⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜ ⬜⬜⬜ ⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
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Maybe you could add a link if you want to expand to the second one. But it's just too long for sharing.
(I've been helping @DungZeekFu a bit with Quordle and am curious for any ideas around this though!)
I’m not suggesting doing a full UTF mapping onto base64, but just 1..180 mod 3 => char base64[3] would give you 182 board positions in three URL characters.
I think a big part of what makes Wordle compelling is the ritualistic daily nature so not seeing how this would beat it out.
I built a multiplayer version as a weekend project, would love to know what you think!
https://wordleague.xyz/
side note: I've gotten most of them, but today's ruined my streak.
https://octordle.com/
https://octordle.com/
My feeling is that as long as I get 4 + number of boards guesses I'll always be able to solve it but maybe I'm being overly optimistic.
Early on friends complained it was too hard. In my experience after a few games it gets pretty easy.
I made one with a 5x5 square of letters, containing five words down and five across: https://squareword.org/
A bit like a combination of crosswords and Wordle, as vertical words can be used for additional clues.
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Seems possible that wordle uses it given the 12k number:
edit: ...but interesting!
Given a list of words, see if there exists a valid 5x5 square of words.
One thing, I don't like that plurals are possible answers. The original let you guess plurals but no answers were plurals.
Basically the idea is there is a boggle board generated and all N-letter word paths found. The paths are made available to click on (there are a few UI approaches to this). Once a path is selected you enter Wordle mode for that path. Every guess must still be a real word, but the neat part is if you even nail a single letter, it appears on the Boggle board. And that letter immediately appears as solved on any other path that overlaps it. You can jump/revisit paths at any time.
Goal is to complete the board (unsure if there will be guess limit, letters that are not on any path of course are automatically visible/correct on game start). The completion sharing will be a matrix of numbers instead of colors showing how many guesses of that space across any path were made until the first right letter was achieved. Boggle board size configurable as is the min/max word letters (5x5 w/ only 5-letter words by default).
There are some neat strategies here of path choice/switching and guessing wrong words intentionally in overlapping paths. Will dev if I ever get the time, but feel free to steal the idea and make it.
Then I said, how can I guarantee as a human, I win, in 6 moves almost 100% of the time?
"Quick Brown Fox", as in, use as many possible letters in the alphabet, comprised of 5 letter words, given that we have only 5 words to play with. That gives us 25 characters to use.
I came up with
BLOCK VENTS JUMPY DWARF GHAZI
this leaves out Q and X, which is fine. Using this as a template basically boils Wordle down to a anagram game, so kind of defeats the purpose.
But in this case, i was able to resolve all 4 at one time using my above combination. I guessed, correctly all 4 with PLUMB GLEAN VALID IMPLY. I then realized, you get even more chances on Quordle, but I didn't need it!
You have 9 guesses. This takes up 5 of them, then you need to be correct for each of the 4 words.
This is like when I discovered calcudoku 12x12s and now sudokus are dumb and boring. Just a lot better.
May the NYT acquire you for the level-up option.
I also appreciate all the feedback and I am looking to improve the experience when playing on desktop!
You can follow the @quordle Twitter for updates as well!
One thing, the position of the backspace and enter keys is the opposite of wordle and that's confusing, esp if you play both.
With a 1792px width (Macbook Pro 16) I have to scroll vertically to see all the games while there is plenty of unused horizontal space
But after a practice round, I didn't need to scroll anyway because I got today's puzzle in 3/4/5/7, so whoohoo!
Are the colors in dark mode different to Wordle? I find it harder to remember which gray means unguessed and which means no matches.
The keyboard doesn't display correctly with split colors on Firefox Android, but the numbers at the end do.
Lastly, the share is too large. I tend to just cut off the actual boards and just post the numbers.
Three things:
1. Love it! Thank you!
2. Could there be a better contrast between keyboard letters and the game board? They’re a bit too similar. I use dark mode, but it seems there is the same lack of definition in light mode as well.
3. Is there any way the whole game could be visible on mobile (e.g. iPhone12 Max) so the last few rows of the game board don’t need to be scrolled?
http://wordlist.aspell.net/
A delightful sound
TUBES
FLING
CHAMP
WORDY
With those, I've always completed all four...
Probably not in the spirit of the game, but once you have 20 distinct letters, it is normally quite easy to find the solution.
I used grep to help with the searching.