I personally see it as, at best, an effort to impose finlandization on Ukraine. At worst, it’s a major step to reconstitute the ussr. Potato, potahto, eh?
Theory: the general consensus within the community here is that the leaders of Russia (not the populace, but the leadership) are acting in ways that are internationally risky and harmful.
Although some of the measures that are being taken against Russia are likely to cause discomfort and perhaps harm to the civilian population there, the community here believes that they are necessary currently in order to put pressure on problematic leadership.
The way that manifests is that some/many users will flag and/or downvote posted content that supports Russia.
Well, to look for a contrapositive: I'll get back to you after I discover a message (on any platform) sent by an entity that doesn't have a history to draw on that affects its' perspective. Don't hold your breath too long.
Regardless this place is really feeling like a Neocon pep rally circa 2003. Suspiciously dang seems nowhere to be found despite the constant unsubstantive nationalistic flamebait being posted in every Ukraine/Russia related thread.
I don’t think the US is a good place to live or to work. In fact I’ve been miserable ever since living here. It’s a depressing place with no semblance of justice. I can’t say that I wouldn’t support a regime change here.
I think you're correct that the typical GOP voter does not support Putin[1]. There are very visible GOP figures that support Putin and/or the annexation of Ukraine though:
- Tucker Carlson[2]
- Rand Paul[3]
- JD Vance[4]
Unfortunately actual voters often get drowned out by all the screaming in the media.
Much of the pro-Russia content posted in the West is part of a disinformation war being waged by Russian state actors.
There certainly are people stupid/ignorant enough to believe Putin's invasion was provoked, but it's more likely to be part of a state campaign instead.
The vast majority of humans aware of this conflict (including in some Russian-allied countries) are opposed to the invasion, so we would expect English-majority websites to reflect that ratio absent manipulation.
HN is a product of an USA company, USA being a country that acts like they were the ruler of the world.
You should accept the US world's vision and adopt its mindset or being banned, ostracized, canceled, whatever.
In the US vision, wars are something bad only if it's not aligned with US interests or isn't executed directly by US. In this particular case, Russia invading Ukraine goes against US interests.
In short, US give to themselves the rights to do whatever they want to achieve their goals, including wars like in Iraq and Afghanistan, while condemning everybody else that try to do the same. You should accept or face the consequences.
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[ 2.2 ms ] story [ 91.8 ms ] threadThey’re not. Try harder?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30105090
Maybe it’s just that nobody here is interested in your opinion.
If you put some work into differentiating yourself from the average internet troll, perhaps you’d have more success here.
I’m very curious what sort of aid you were requesting.
Were you seeking support for the Russian soldiers fighting in Ukraine? Or was it a group fighting for LGBTQ rights in Moscow?
Maybe something less obvious … raising money for the families of Russian “orphans and widows” or “healthcare for Russian veterans.”
Don’t answer these questions. You’re not allowed to tell me. This information is forbidden.
In the way that gravity is subjective.
As, apparently, is which side is rolling tanks and firing missiles into the other’s capital.
For as long as the former view is dominant, it seems destruction and pain won't stop.
It would seem that most Ukrainians disagree with your subjective opinion.
Although some of the measures that are being taken against Russia are likely to cause discomfort and perhaps harm to the civilian population there, the community here believes that they are necessary currently in order to put pressure on problematic leadership.
The way that manifests is that some/many users will flag and/or downvote posted content that supports Russia.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_attack
- Tucker Carlson[2]
- Rand Paul[3]
- JD Vance[4]
Unfortunately actual voters often get drowned out by all the screaming in the media.
1. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-gop-is-still-largel...
2. https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2022/02/23/tucker-carls...
3. https://www.courier-journal.com/story/opinion/2022/01/26/ran...
4. https://twitter.com/JDVance1
We allow that every 4 years.
There certainly are people stupid/ignorant enough to believe Putin's invasion was provoked, but it's more likely to be part of a state campaign instead.
The vast majority of humans aware of this conflict (including in some Russian-allied countries) are opposed to the invasion, so we would expect English-majority websites to reflect that ratio absent manipulation.
You should accept the US world's vision and adopt its mindset or being banned, ostracized, canceled, whatever.
In the US vision, wars are something bad only if it's not aligned with US interests or isn't executed directly by US. In this particular case, Russia invading Ukraine goes against US interests.
In short, US give to themselves the rights to do whatever they want to achieve their goals, including wars like in Iraq and Afghanistan, while condemning everybody else that try to do the same. You should accept or face the consequences.
I don't know what specific posts you are concerned with, though.