I can't see it happening. Then again I am in America where very little gets imported from Russia and even less in terms of consumer goods. European markets will probably be hit harder but its nothing China won't gladly compensate.
Long term I think this will strengthen the Russian economy, provided they take this opportunity to restructure their infrastructure supply chains with a focus on domestic supply routes. Ultimately this may lead to some competition that erodes western influence, but it's something we as Americans I believe are prepared for.
I've worked a lot in manufacturing planning and scheduling for companies that do aerospace, defense, and federal contracts. I've also worked for the federal government. A very substantial amount of consideration goes into our supply chains here in America (we are still catching up on digital supply chain integrity). Integrity is everything. Even when we were in a trade "war" with China recently; sourcing raw materials became more difficult, but only slightly. We were set back a couple of weeks at most.
Russia, on the other hand, obviously has no supply chain integrity. They seem to be barely able to function.
Here is a conspiratorial answer. Feel free to disregard it; I can't vouch for it.
Posted 4.5 months ago, here is a timeline to tyranny, purportedly from an ex-Pfizer scientist. https://stateofthenation.co/?p=91761 . It claims that in Phase 6, taking place between now and September, the elites have a plan in place to "Trigger the economic, financial and stock market collapse, the bankruptcy of the banks."
I'd love to hear something that contradicts this. It seems like an excellent explanation for provoking for war, and putting in sanctions. With fuel prices going crazy, and house prices already untenable for many, and governments spending many millions or billions of dollars they don't have for Covid relief, it really does seem reasonable that an underhanded organization could bring down the world economy.
I agree with you, and I don't have a full answer to this. The best short answer I have is: why have almost everything (money, land, power) when, with a push, you could have all of everything?
I'm a Canadian. I've been amazed and appalled at how the trucker convoy was handled. The Prime Minister here basically resorted to name calling, disappearing, and then resorting to the nuclear option, abusing the Emergencies Act and freezing bank accounts. The actions don't make sense if we assume the prime minister is a rational actor acting in the best interests of his country. He could've easily de-escalated the situation and met with the truckers when the problem was small. The actions do make more sense if the plan is to pit the people against each other, which, with media support, has been highly successful. There's a lot of hate people who do not wish to be vaccinated, and even against people who just want to have their government-guaranteed freedoms back. Now that hatred has been turned on Russia; I've seen some people ironically say that Putin should get an award for single-handedly ending Covid (not that it is over, just that the news isn't talking about it all the time).
Oh, and I should add that the Canadian government wants to censor the internet. Wish I had a better link, but here's a reputable one: https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/02/lobby-harder-canadian-he... . It is also worth noting that, despite undermining our democracy, invoking the emergencies act in this way may have damaged our banking system. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/23/boom-tr... . I'm reminded of an airline that went under, oh, fifteen or twenty years ago. They landed, and had people disembark the aircraft, and said we're out of business. There was no warning beforehand. If Canadian banks are in trouble, they won't be telling news reporters.
The head of the World Economic Forum (who most of the people who think something is afoot are pointing to) is Klaus Schwab, who wrote a book called "Covid-19: The Great Reset". It sounds like the plan is to take everything away from everybody; Mr. Schwab said that in 2030, "you'll own nothing and be happy."
Russia is a military and nuclear power, not an economic one. Their economy is surprisingly small. As others have pointed out, nothing they make outside of the energy sector is unique - it could all be replaced by other countries. All in, Russia accounts for less than 2% of global GDP.
If you're going to worry, focus on the fact that you have a nuclear-armed former superpower that is getting humiliated and cancelled on the world stage and may at some point decide they have nothing to lose.
I don't think we're "crushing Russia's economy" at all, actually. We're separating from it. And soon we will from China as well.
What we're witnessing is the end of an era. As Lenin said, "There are decades where nothing happens and there are weeks where decades happen." Lion prides work where there is one dominant male until either it gets too old or a young male gets too strong. Then, in a moment, it all changes. No empire lasts forever.
The US is fiscally bankrupt and has pissed off its opposition too long. It spent a fortune on tanks and missiles, and then technology came and made that all essentially redundant.
My guess? Russia and China (and probably India) will base their currencies on gold. They will want payment for energy, rare minerals, chips, etc. in that gold-based currency. NATO will dissolve and the US will become deeply poor.
Hahaha, I have to ask where you're making this up from? Like no one reasonable aside from 'west haters' and bot accounts would give this a serious line of thought.
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[ 4.5 ms ] story [ 35.4 ms ] threadLong term I think this will strengthen the Russian economy, provided they take this opportunity to restructure their infrastructure supply chains with a focus on domestic supply routes. Ultimately this may lead to some competition that erodes western influence, but it's something we as Americans I believe are prepared for.
I've worked a lot in manufacturing planning and scheduling for companies that do aerospace, defense, and federal contracts. I've also worked for the federal government. A very substantial amount of consideration goes into our supply chains here in America (we are still catching up on digital supply chain integrity). Integrity is everything. Even when we were in a trade "war" with China recently; sourcing raw materials became more difficult, but only slightly. We were set back a couple of weeks at most.
Russia, on the other hand, obviously has no supply chain integrity. They seem to be barely able to function.
Posted 4.5 months ago, here is a timeline to tyranny, purportedly from an ex-Pfizer scientist. https://stateofthenation.co/?p=91761 . It claims that in Phase 6, taking place between now and September, the elites have a plan in place to "Trigger the economic, financial and stock market collapse, the bankruptcy of the banks."
I'd love to hear something that contradicts this. It seems like an excellent explanation for provoking for war, and putting in sanctions. With fuel prices going crazy, and house prices already untenable for many, and governments spending many millions or billions of dollars they don't have for Covid relief, it really does seem reasonable that an underhanded organization could bring down the world economy.
Fun times indeed.
I haven't read that, what's the motivation? It seems like things are pretty good right now for the elites. Why rock the boat?
I'm a Canadian. I've been amazed and appalled at how the trucker convoy was handled. The Prime Minister here basically resorted to name calling, disappearing, and then resorting to the nuclear option, abusing the Emergencies Act and freezing bank accounts. The actions don't make sense if we assume the prime minister is a rational actor acting in the best interests of his country. He could've easily de-escalated the situation and met with the truckers when the problem was small. The actions do make more sense if the plan is to pit the people against each other, which, with media support, has been highly successful. There's a lot of hate people who do not wish to be vaccinated, and even against people who just want to have their government-guaranteed freedoms back. Now that hatred has been turned on Russia; I've seen some people ironically say that Putin should get an award for single-handedly ending Covid (not that it is over, just that the news isn't talking about it all the time).
Oh, and I should add that the Canadian government wants to censor the internet. Wish I had a better link, but here's a reputable one: https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/02/lobby-harder-canadian-he... . It is also worth noting that, despite undermining our democracy, invoking the emergencies act in this way may have damaged our banking system. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/23/boom-tr... . I'm reminded of an airline that went under, oh, fifteen or twenty years ago. They landed, and had people disembark the aircraft, and said we're out of business. There was no warning beforehand. If Canadian banks are in trouble, they won't be telling news reporters.
The head of the World Economic Forum (who most of the people who think something is afoot are pointing to) is Klaus Schwab, who wrote a book called "Covid-19: The Great Reset". It sounds like the plan is to take everything away from everybody; Mr. Schwab said that in 2030, "you'll own nothing and be happy."
The best link I've got here is probably this video, "Is Klaus Schwab the Most Dangerous Man in the World?": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3nWyoQ5CQ
With all that said, I'd be happy for alternative explanations.
Russia is a military and nuclear power, not an economic one. Their economy is surprisingly small. As others have pointed out, nothing they make outside of the energy sector is unique - it could all be replaced by other countries. All in, Russia accounts for less than 2% of global GDP.
If you're going to worry, focus on the fact that you have a nuclear-armed former superpower that is getting humiliated and cancelled on the world stage and may at some point decide they have nothing to lose.
What we're witnessing is the end of an era. As Lenin said, "There are decades where nothing happens and there are weeks where decades happen." Lion prides work where there is one dominant male until either it gets too old or a young male gets too strong. Then, in a moment, it all changes. No empire lasts forever.
The US is fiscally bankrupt and has pissed off its opposition too long. It spent a fortune on tanks and missiles, and then technology came and made that all essentially redundant.
My guess? Russia and China (and probably India) will base their currencies on gold. They will want payment for energy, rare minerals, chips, etc. in that gold-based currency. NATO will dissolve and the US will become deeply poor.