The misguided notion that the entire SEAL world works entirely 100% free of any relationship to anything done sitting at a computer is... well, interesting to say the least!
Intelligence and information play critical roles in SEAL operations, and computers are a key essential tool of that aspect.
It's good that nobody said they were comparable jobs, then.
By the way, regarding computer work, I was talking about actual SEAL work, not support staff. The direct intelligence and digital recon work that intimately guides field teams is very much computer based, being carried out by personnel who are directly part of the SEAL structure.
Even field-centric SEAL operatives themselves, there are probably 3 computers-worth of digital equipment on their person at any given time.
So the tough-guy notion that "big military specops dudes have nothing to do with weak nerdy computer stuff, lol!" - which is embodied in the post calling the metaphor 'risible' - is very misguided indeed.
Agree + acknowledge. It's an arbitrary constraint however, to imply that any comparison to SEALs must be based upon physical prowess.
Why should metaphors referencing the SEAL's mental tenacity, their problem solving abilities, their dedication, their principles, their protective role, their place as an agent of conflict, not be equally valid?
Of course they are, and it's only those who put an overemphasis upon physical prowess (at the detriment of all else) who are offended by the author's metaphor here.
The original comment we're discussing is: "comparing anything done sitting at the computer to the Navy SEALs is risible".
Some of the work done by Navy SEALs literally does involve things done sitting at computers, so the original comment is directly contradicting itself, and is therefore incorrect.
Is it? Dealing with an unending 24x7 stream of public misbehavior and abuse has to be stressful and draining. For example, we have seen some number of moderators of Facebook and other major sites report PTSD.
This just made me realize that after years of browsing, I never knew dang's name until now. Thanks for all hard work, Daniel! You make this site one of the only usable link aggregators left.
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[ 0.19 ms ] story [ 43.8 ms ] threadIntelligence and information play critical roles in SEAL operations, and computers are a key essential tool of that aspect.
Being essential to their job doesn’t make them comparable jobs.
By the way, regarding computer work, I was talking about actual SEAL work, not support staff. The direct intelligence and digital recon work that intimately guides field teams is very much computer based, being carried out by personnel who are directly part of the SEAL structure.
Even field-centric SEAL operatives themselves, there are probably 3 computers-worth of digital equipment on their person at any given time.
So the tough-guy notion that "big military specops dudes have nothing to do with weak nerdy computer stuff, lol!" - which is embodied in the post calling the metaphor 'risible' - is very misguided indeed.
Why should metaphors referencing the SEAL's mental tenacity, their problem solving abilities, their dedication, their principles, their protective role, their place as an agent of conflict, not be equally valid?
Of course they are, and it's only those who put an overemphasis upon physical prowess (at the detriment of all else) who are offended by the author's metaphor here.
Since items an inherently physical job, it makes sense.
We all agree computers are important. That doesn’t make the comparison less ridiculous.
presence in conflict; mental strength; role as specialists; frontline protection work keeping regular people safe; tenacity and dedication
..are also key traits of vastly disparate things like online moderation.
Figures-of-speech referencing those other qualities are perfectly valid.
As some of the traits noted are binary - either present, or not - the concept of "level" is not applicable.
The commonality of the traits is a valid basis for figure-of-speech.
So are the people that serve them food
> big military specops dudes have nothing to do with weak nerdy computer stuff, lol!
No one is saying that. Everyone is aware of the role computers have. They’re (correctly) saying that comparing the jobs is asinine.
Some of the work done by Navy SEALs literally does involve things done sitting at computers, so the original comment is directly contradicting itself, and is therefore incorrect.
It also involves them being fed and having their equipment maintained.
Comparing the jobs is risible.
You're perfectly entitled to not like the choice of common traits in somebody else's figure-of-speech. Have at it. :)