Tell YC: What are your financial strategies amidst this growing credit crunch / dragging economy?
What are your current financial strategies or predictions given this souring economic state?
Being 22, I'm a bit new to fully comprehending economic slowdowns and curious how others have made the best of them.
Personally, I'm pissed that the government continues to bail-out corporations, however I'm mainly interested to hear your thoughts on what sort of business / investment opportunities might arise out of this downturn.
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[ 4.5 ms ] story [ 97.5 ms ] threadIMHO you should get very good at trying to build a business. Indeed that's maybe why you're even reading in this aggregator anyway. Even when they fail, you learn quite a good lesson, and using people around you to help you leverage your talent will probably put you in a better position to withstand these economic downturns.
On the meantime, get acquainted with sound economic theory books, maybe even some accounting 101's and perhaps a refreshing metaphor wielding book (Millionaire Next Door by Thomas J. Stanley and William D. Danko maybe?) to help you get pumped up.
On a side note, it seems that economic downturns are favored by big investors to get undervalued assets into their portfolio (be it either paper, real estate or even businesses) for cheap. Indeed this seems to have been Buffet's strategy all along. Maybe we could learn from him, that a bearish environment, does not have to be the most caustic of ones.
You can succeed. Try not to speculate too much, go for fundamentals.
phase 1) pay down all your high interest debt. if you're paying more than 7-8% on something (i.e. a credit card), pay that shit down. you'll be hard pressed for the market to pay that much consistently, so you're best #1 investment is to pay that down first.
phase 2) build yourself an emergency fund. if you get fired, have a medical emergency, or whatever, you're going to need money. build up at least 3 months worth of living expenses. keep it in a high hield savings account (i use HSBC direct) so you're earning a solid 3+% on it. not too bad.
phase 3) take the bulk of your money and invest it in a diverse set of index funds that have low costs. i also suggest setting up a 401k or roth ira if you don't already have one and put most, if not all, of your investment money into one of these (for now, at least -- compound interest and long term investments work best when you start early). keep your money in here for the long term (10 years minimum) -- don't get scared over downs or excited over ups. over the long term, the market will produce an average of a 10% return (see http://www.icmarc.org/xp/rc/marketview/chart/2006/20060714ti... for more info), and thats what you want. rebalance your portfolio twice a year. this is, essentially, autopilot investing.
phase 3.5) lather, rinse, repeat, in this order. if you get more debt that falls into phase 1, do phase 1. if your emergency fund doesn't fit into phase 2 anymore, feed it until it fits phase 2. and then always, like clockwork, be pumping more money into phase 3. feed it it like its one of your other bills.
phase 4) if you want some more risk, skim off some of your index fund money and invest it into a small smattering of individual stocks. i recommend dividend-paying stocks and REITs since, even if the price goes down, you're still earning a dividend. even though my portfolio stocks are negative, my individual stock portfolio as a whole is positive due to the dividends i get. but be wary -- investing in individual stocks can be a gamble if you don't know enough about what you're doing (and if you pick some of the "big" stocks to invest in, you're already investing in them via your index funds, most likely).
hope this helps. investing and doing well is easy. investing and doing better than "well" requires research time (which you could use on your startups), effort, and doesn't always work out.
And now, a very important note for those of you who are even younger than me: The massive bear market is an incredible stroke of luck for you.
(I didn't realize this back in 2000, and I paid the price. Don't make the same mistake I did.)
When you're young you don't need immediate profit from your investments. You have many years to sit on them. You want to buy low and sell high. When's the best time to buy low? When the market is crashing!
So now, more than ever, is the time to save, save, save. Earn money and invest it. Live cheaply and save. Buy stocks with a portion of your savings. Buy them while everyone else is selling them, and take time now and then to bless the universe for giving you a 25% (and counting!) drop in the S&P500 over the last year. No matter whether stocks are overvalued or undervalued, buying them at a 25% discount from what they used to be is a good thing.
Of course, those of us who already have some stocks have a mixed blessing: The portfolio value is collapsing, but there's also a chance to buy more at fire-sale prices. And those who happen to be baby boomers are totally screwed, because they have to retire tomorrow and their savings -- even if they happened to have had any -- are rapidly vanishing at precisely the wrong moment. So stock market crashes aren't all wine and roses for everyone. But, if you happen to be in your twenties, they're good news.
(For more details I recommend Bernstein's The Four Pillars of Investing. Sadly, it's clear to me now that every year that I didn't know about this book was costing me money.)
See if your dividend-paying stock provides a DRIP. That helps out too with the whole autopilot investing.
May I sugest a link that popped up just a moment ago? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=307838
Or if you want it direct, use: http://marshallbrain.com/million.htm
Very nice, down to earth advice, from the founder of HowStuffWorks.
Edit: Just found the edit link. Fixed the comment.