How come there’s not an app that’s successful at helping people making friends?

19 points by jkmcdonald ↗ HN
There are tons of apps are about doing that. But none is successful. Is it because making friends via apps is such a bad way doing it? Or because very few people want to make friends via apps? What’s ur thoughts on it?

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One of the main problems is - How to know if someone is actually looking for a friendship? In other words, how to effectively filter out scammers.
none is successful

What evidence you have for that claim?

I've met several friends through Meetup. I'm sure there are other apps that help as well.

Perhaps you are not using apps correctly for your location and context, or are not served by them well there.

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IME the people who want to find connections on an app tend to have anxiety around actually meeting/doing things with new people, and apps are unable to drive the level of commitment required to overcome that anxiety. Without an existing social network, connections tend to fizzle out before a relationship (platonic or otherwise) has a chance to be established.
Because friendships are made on apps they are made over shared experiences. You'd have to bring them together over an activity not just matching people if anything the old groupon would have been a good pivot into a friendship app. Matching people who paid for a rock climbing class subscription together for instance.
Aside from personality extraversion

Relationships can easily be initiated with a mutual interest in meeting someone to sleep with. Both parties accept there is an undiscussed mutual goal and a powerful motivational factor of getting laid, and if it doesnt work, then no worries. Additionally, people are FAR more relaxed on mutual comparability in this area. Liking coffee can be enough of a jump start, particularly if you are younger.

Friendships have far more prequesites and far less motivation. They also seem to flourish sometimes in direct opposition to external interests and personality. I dont really want many IT guys as my friend, so mutual interests isn't going to hack it. (No pun intended)

There is - social media, and before that, forums and mailing lists.

I've made friends through shared experiences and often these were based around online communities. For many years I raced mountain bikes, putting a face to a forum username up and down the country every weekend.

I've experienced wild nights partying with strangers from Reddit; hosted people around the world via Couchsurfing (and still remain in frequent contact with many); even made friends through mentoring at a coding group.

I met my wife through Yahoo Groups back in 1999. My friend met his wife through Tinder in 2018 and just got married.

They're tiny data points, but I don't think there's a problem with the apps in that respect. You can still find like minded people online and over time form friendships - used to be the way to do it was newsgroups, then forums, now it's probably MeetUps and Discord.

I don't think things have changed, but as I've gotten older (I suspect you're getting older too ;) it has become harder to make friends - which by all accounts is normal.

I don't think an app can ever overcome the personal and cultural forces at work here. I've seen people who can make great friends over any medium imaginable, and others who remain lonely despite having every opportunity. I don't believe it's the failure of the apps, rather look to the culture to see how friendships are valued and formed.

I see my generation has no value of 'friendship'; friendship as a serious commitment which has benefits and responsibilities. People want a convenient way to not feel too lonely, without giving up an ounce of personal convenience.

I've begun to have a conversation with new people I meet at the first or second meeting, beginning with "what does friendship mean?". Then you can set your expectations at the beginning rather than setting yourself up for disappointment. This will also scare away people who don't want a commitment, so prepare for that.

Aside: I recently noted that Germans seem to have a real value of friendship. I have two german friends who check-in, and plan things on a regular basis, and clearly have a place in their brain reserved for considering how they can build their friendships, and I've heard the same anecdote often. I'm from Quebec originally, and there also saw the huge gap between anglo relationships and francophone ones (francos keep in touch).

Yes, I was going to say that making and keeping friends is to do with paying attention to it. If there is an app it is a to do app.
An 'app' to make friends?

It's called going to the pub mate. Not sitting playing with your fondle slab.

Bad advice IMO. One can make friends anywhere. If anything, I'd go to an activity, convention or event that peaks your interest.
OK, I facetiously say 'go to the pub' as a metaphor for just going outside and meeting people.

......Though being British, this usually involves us all going for a piss-up at some point or other. (Typical example: what's the point in going mountain bike riding if you don't all cycle past a pub on the way home?)

Ah fair enough.

Nice point about being British. Apparently, I only have that when I'm skiing :P

I don't know why I am replying to a throwaway account, but anyway....

I can sit in 1,000 pubs for 1,000 hours and not even talk to someone, let alone make a friend.

For some of us, it's just not that easy. The few friends I do have, I somehow acquired 20 years ago, and for some reason they've not got bored of me yet.

World of Warcraft was pretty good at it some 15 years ago.

People need incentives to make friends, not an app.

Making friends is hard. It's a big commitment for both parties, you have to dedicate quite some time to it, and find common grounds to talk and share things about. It's also harder without some task or activity that can be done together other than chatting/writing. Not to mention having the right mindset for it! I wouldn't find it surprising if it were extremely difficult to be successful at making other people become friends as an objective and focus and not a "side effect" (online videogames, communities, et cetera)
Because making a friend requires more than an app.
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Because all apps are doing is making people more transactional
“The app says to tell you those are nice sunglasses.”

“The app says to tell you thanks and tell you my name is Steve.”

“The app says to tell you you’re welcome and that I was thinking about a pair like that myself and also my name is Bill.”

I have made a few friends via Twitter, I think you social medias do a great job regarding to that as you can filter by communities and interests.
I've made lifelong friends on IRC as well as ICQ/AIM. These apps don't really have any special features for making friends except a chat window.
most people are selfish giant piles of shit. hard to find people worth befriending.
Making friends is best accomplished while doing something else, not as the focused activity.

People often make friends with people that they work with, or play sports or games with, or do hobbies with, or take classes with, take shared transport with, or some other shared, repeated experience.

Dating services work, which is sort of similar, but a friendship service would be kind of weird. If you want to make friends, join a sports organization, take a class, meet with hobby groups, etc. Maybe your local parks organization has some classes that are more of fun activities to do. You can do online discussion groups etc, too. I made plenty of friends on IRC, and I still talk to a few of them.