Ubuntu got me into Linux and made it accesible to me. I still remember being in a grocery store and seeing Ubuntu 8.0 on the front page of a magazine. I had no idea I would be using it to start my Linux journey years later.
But now a days I think there are better distros. And that is before we even talk about Canonicals business practices. But… I’m glad to see them moving to a rolling release. This will be good for a lot of people.
Unclear from the article is whether or not they will continue to support LTS versions.
If they are eliminating stable releases from their open source offerings as RH did with Fedora, a similar exodus will occur to a new platform. I sure as heck would not use a rolling release for any of my daily work, and sure as heck not on a server.
Presently, Ubuntu LTS is the only distribution that I use for my professional embedded development work. I have used said LTS releases since 2004. The ongoing push to use snap and the recent introduction of a snap-only Firefox in Jammy already has made me expect that this sort of last straw is coming soon.
Canonical, your recent choices are disappointing and disillusioning your users. I suspect you no longer care about your community and are chasing profits, following in the footsteps of RH.
HN, where would you migrate?
I suspect that the best contender will not emerge until Ubuntu pulls this trigger, but I now am ready to explore my options.
> Unclear from the article is whether or not they will continue to support LTS versions
Why would this unofficial third-party system that takes a bunch of steps on top of the official Ubuntu release have any effect on Canonical support policies? Sure, the article is badly written and unclear, but that it isn't an official Ubuntu thing is pretty clear from the description of how it works:
“How is this achieved? According to the documentation, it’s mainly accomplished by tracking ‘devel’ repositories, which are repositories that have existed for every release but are not often used in production. You must start with a modified Ubuntu image which can be found here. Then, the distribution must be ‘initialized’ by follow steps in the documentation. Lastly, you need to use their custom tool called ‘rhino-update’ which extends the capabilities to apt that allow the distribution to update itself outside of the normal confines of a traditional Ubuntu release.”
It's even more clear if you go the linked page on Rolling Rhino Remix that it describes instead of the incompetently-written article:
“Rolling Rhino Remix is an un-official Ubuntu flavour which converts the Ubuntu operating system into a rolling release Linux distriibution by tracking the devel series.”
Thanks for clicking the link at the bottom of the article (which I totally missed) and clarifying. The article made it sound like this was both an Ubuntu/Canonical offering and the only path forward. Still concerned about its future, but glad to hear my fears were largely unwarranted. Mea culpa.
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[ 2.7 ms ] story [ 26.0 ms ] threadBut now a days I think there are better distros. And that is before we even talk about Canonicals business practices. But… I’m glad to see them moving to a rolling release. This will be good for a lot of people.
If they are eliminating stable releases from their open source offerings as RH did with Fedora, a similar exodus will occur to a new platform. I sure as heck would not use a rolling release for any of my daily work, and sure as heck not on a server.
Presently, Ubuntu LTS is the only distribution that I use for my professional embedded development work. I have used said LTS releases since 2004. The ongoing push to use snap and the recent introduction of a snap-only Firefox in Jammy already has made me expect that this sort of last straw is coming soon.
Canonical, your recent choices are disappointing and disillusioning your users. I suspect you no longer care about your community and are chasing profits, following in the footsteps of RH.
HN, where would you migrate? I suspect that the best contender will not emerge until Ubuntu pulls this trigger, but I now am ready to explore my options.
Rolling Rhino Remix is totally unrelated to Canonical and the Ubuntu maintainers.
Why would this unofficial third-party system that takes a bunch of steps on top of the official Ubuntu release have any effect on Canonical support policies? Sure, the article is badly written and unclear, but that it isn't an official Ubuntu thing is pretty clear from the description of how it works:
“How is this achieved? According to the documentation, it’s mainly accomplished by tracking ‘devel’ repositories, which are repositories that have existed for every release but are not often used in production. You must start with a modified Ubuntu image which can be found here. Then, the distribution must be ‘initialized’ by follow steps in the documentation. Lastly, you need to use their custom tool called ‘rhino-update’ which extends the capabilities to apt that allow the distribution to update itself outside of the normal confines of a traditional Ubuntu release.”
It's even more clear if you go the linked page on Rolling Rhino Remix that it describes instead of the incompetently-written article:
https://rollingrhinoremix.github.io/
“Rolling Rhino Remix is an un-official Ubuntu flavour which converts the Ubuntu operating system into a rolling release Linux distriibution by tracking the devel series.”
I've been using it for work for many years, it doesn't disappoint.