It says the fingerprint reader works with workarounds, with "medium" level difficulty according to the icon. I don't see what incentive System76 has in making PopOS easy to use on a competitor's laptop, so the fact that it's even possible is a positive thing.
Actually, this level of support is really all I want or expect from a hardware vendor. It isn't reasonable to expect Framework to thoroughly test every single Linux distribution out there, but if they put their effort into one or two high profile distros, and get their drivers upstreamed into the kernel, then all Linux distros can ultimately benefit. As a longtime Linux user, I'm grateful for any support whatsoever from a hardware vendor.
I hope Framework makes at least some effort to help get FreeBSD working on their laptops too, but now we're really getting into a niche market share.
I love what the framework team is doing and what they stand for, and I don't want to knock them for this because it's entirely Intel's fault, but like... S3 sleep?
I have a T480 that I really like, but I'm honestly pretty scared to upgrade at this point because of the S0ix clusterfuck.
When I close the lid, the battery should last a week, not a day. The OS kernel should not be able to just wake itself up and check for updates whenever it pleases.
We're seeing better S0ix results than before on recent kernels, like 5.15 that Ubuntu 22.04 will ship with and 5.17 on Fedora 36. There is one workaround required to get to the lowest power levels. This is currently in exploration in the community, and we'll update our guides once we've vetted it further: https://community.frame.work/t/linux-battery-life-tuning/666...
My solution was to have sleep trigger a script to set a timer that wakes the laptop up after 1 hour. The wakeup function then triggered a script that if it woke up right at 1 hour after sleep, it would then hibernate (to disk), which could stay in that state indefinitely. Note, this was some years ago, I think SystemD has something like this built in, not sure.
Does anyone have a sleep/suspend configuration that isn't too difficult to configure and works well? I should update and try again, but as of 6 months ago, this was the one thing that made the Framework too painful for me to use as a daily driver.
I loved how power management just worked on the Librem 15 (until mine died).
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[ 0.20 ms ] story [ 58.0 ms ] threadSo an Ubuntu derivative don't work but the upstream does?
Actually, this level of support is really all I want or expect from a hardware vendor. It isn't reasonable to expect Framework to thoroughly test every single Linux distribution out there, but if they put their effort into one or two high profile distros, and get their drivers upstreamed into the kernel, then all Linux distros can ultimately benefit. As a longtime Linux user, I'm grateful for any support whatsoever from a hardware vendor.
I hope Framework makes at least some effort to help get FreeBSD working on their laptops too, but now we're really getting into a niche market share.
I have a T480 that I really like, but I'm honestly pretty scared to upgrade at this point because of the S0ix clusterfuck.
When I close the lid, the battery should last a week, not a day. The OS kernel should not be able to just wake itself up and check for updates whenever it pleases.
I have a modern laptop that has both and I can measure no difference in energy usage or other behavior between them.
I loved how power management just worked on the Librem 15 (until mine died).
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Framework_Laptop#Suspend
"sudo lspci -v"
and
"sudo lsusb -v"
and a typical modern kernel boot dmesg , to see what Linux really looks like on this.
I'm thinking about returning the system76 I literally just bought to switch to framework.