Ask HN: Are there any rural tech communities?
With increasing remote work, are there rural communities where many people are tech workers?
Curious globally, but mostly interested in USA/UK.
I would like to live a more pastoral life, but anecdotally I've heard that people tend to be very different to those you find in a city.
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[ 3.4 ms ] story [ 418 ms ] threadMy guess: You need at least a town with a state college. (Do you consider Fort Collins, Colorado to be "rural"? It's about 110,000 people. Decent tech scene there.)
I used to live in a small rural town West of Lansing when I worked as an agronomist in a past career. I left to do a SaaS startup and stayed local because this small town became a test site for cable Internet. Note this was a time when neither Lansing nor Grand Rapids had a broadband Internet option, everything was dial up or ISDN if you were lucky.
My new office was across from city hall. I advocated to the city father's that they spend a fraction of the money promoting it's empty industrial park (every small town in Michigan has one) to lure software companies to town promoting it's then rare broadband Internet. They treated me as if I was advocating building a spaceport for aliens. In fact if they saw me coming they'd cross the street.
I found out years later that quite by accident a startup had moved to the town specifically for the availability of broadband. Now they only have around 25 employees twenty years later but in a town of less than 3,000 I think that is still pretty good. But with a small amount of effort they could have had a dozen such companies ;<(.
P.S. we are hiring web dev and analytics/data engineer if you know anyone in the area!
- Small computer repair shops competing with big box computer repair
- Hagerty Insurance
- Munson Healthcare (the only health care provider in the 30 mile radius that I'm aware of).
- Finance - There are a couple of banks and credit unions but most of the investment firms I know of aren't based out of Traverse City.
- atlas space
- oneupweb
- midmark
- salamander
- efulfillment
- 20fathoms
- Healthbridge
to name a few off the top of my head
The Center on Rural Innovation (CORI) is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization partnering with rural leaders across the country to build digital economies that support scalable entrepreneurship and lead to more tech jobs in rural America.
https://ruralinnovation.us/community-impact/rural-innovation...
https://ruralinnovation.us/
Not affiliated, just found it prompted by your question, looks very interesting!
It's nice, there's enough tech folks to maintain several maker spaces and co-working spots, and the students are a steady stream of enthusiastic youngsters to keep things feeling fresh. Added benefit that I've discovered talking to people in bigger cities: there's enough going on here that I often want to do several things in a day, and since much of it happens in the same 2 mile radius, you don't have to factor travel time into planning. (For example, I can go to a python meetup that ends at 7 and get to the theatre to see a 715 show with friends on the other side of town - a lot of places make that into an either-or proposition).
You get the benefits of rural life, but your neighbors are more likely to be open minded and progressive, and you tend to get more culture, better schools and the restaurants are generally better.
Number of tech worker's that's hard to know.
Many "rural" people live in small towns/cities where their nearest neighbor is mere yards away, others would only consider "rural" to be where the nearest neighbor couldn't be hit with a high-powered rifle.
Later they mentioned where they moved it was ... it was the suburbs. Very much not rural.
Where I live there's a farm down the road, that doesn't make it rural either.
Afaik they're the only company to work for so it's a bit limited. But I have a friend who lives there and is one of their many developers and she loves it. I understood from her that they're staying permanently remote even after the pandemic, but they might give you preferential treatment if you're willing to move anyways. And I know she still has the possibility of going into the office whenever she wants and has great relationships with her coworkers.
Some of their problems are very interesting too, as much of the software is to run their highly optimized warehouse. Their whole schtick is that they can get your product out of the warehouse in just an hour or two, so if you can pay for fast shipping it will get to you however fast you want. And this ends up being a very interesting optimization problem with human and machine components as well.
Lancaster PA has or had a few tech companies.
So I'd say probably yes. Pick a county of 500 thousand people or so and start looking through their Craigslist for job postings. You'll find them eventually.
https://www.bendbulletin.com/business/bend-is-u-s-capital-of...
It's a city of 100K people though, so I don't think it's what I would call 'rural' if you live in town.
Beautiful downtown area around a waterfall, tons of biking, near mountains and 3 lakes.
House prices are through the roof right now due to the influx of people though. Stories of bidding wars that used to be unheard of in this area.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZA252lotHM
I’d like to get plugged back into the tech community here. Could I grab an invite to the slack group? hahn.shot.first@gmail.com
I think that it was good to be able to be able to get into Austin/ SA for meetings and then live in the sticks. I'm in Western CO now... there are a lot of tech workers in the small town where I live.
I still see many of my Bay Area friends; weekend parties at my place are way more fun than parties in their tiny city houses/apartments. And we still keep in touch remotely.
Not every rural area is the same; I also lived for a year in eastern Kentucky and the people are indeed a bit different there. But I still made friends, and I'm not a major extrovert or anything.
I'm in Solano, which is somewhat ok. We still sometimes struggle with the permit department. It would be even easier if we were about a mile north, in Yolo. But there isn't a huge inventory of properties for sale so you don't necessarily get to pick.
On the plus side, if you're trading in from a home in the inner bay area, everything will seem very cheap.
https://app.traveltime.com/search/0-lng=-122.41991&0-tt=60&0...
What is the fire risk like? I'm comfortable with everything else via Starlink, remote job that'll stay remote, and similar.
The answer is complicated.
My property has burned over twice since I've been here, and two years ago a few hundred of my neighbors lost homes in the LNU fire. However, I'll still say that for rural California, it's actually not bad.
It's grasses and oaks here ("light flashy fuels") which burn with low intensity. If you prepare diligently, your home will most likely be fine. We don't get crazy conifer-fueled earth-sterilizing crown fires like the Sierras. By end of spring you can barely tell there was a fire.
I joined the fire service after the LNU fires (unincorporated Solano is all volunteer). So while fire is something that's never far from my mind, it's not something I really worry about.
Sadly, Starlink isn't servicing this area yet, no DSL or cable either. I have to bounce "wireless broadband" off a couple hillsides. It's dreadfully slow, but way better than Hughesnet. Starlink will be a gamechanger for sure.
Starlink and a backup mofi sim router that is config'd a bit will suffice, I'm in a pretty rural spot but more mountain west. It's on the base tripod in my backyard (no roof mount) and works fine.
If remote work is important to you, check out internet options. There's a chance of Comcast and CenturyLink, but both get shifty about actually servicing homes in places (Comcast won't run a drop to my house even though their cable is on the pole at the corner of the lot; CenturyLink has run out of DSLAM ports in some neighborhoods, and some homes are too far from the DSLAM to get usable speeds); some public utility districts do fiber, but if your prospective house isn't already passed by their fiber, you would need to pay actual costs to extend the network plus actual costs to run a drop to your DMARC (which gets spendy if you've got underground wiring and a long driveway; I've got a $50k installation quote which 40% is undergrounding along my driveway and 60% is stringing the fiber on poles for 2ish miles); but some counties don't do that. I've seen relatively good reports for Starlink, but waiting time is unknowable and bandwidth and latency fluctuate during the day.
Do you really want another old couple on the streets of seattle so that you can live your agrarian fantasy?
I'd hope new housing would be built to accomodate any newcomers.
If you want to go farther out, there are plenty of parts of WA that are really rural - but you might not find things like high speed internet are very accessible.
The one thing you won't get moving into any of those places is lower housing costs, however. These are all priced with the fact that high-earners are living in these cities and commuting into Seattle/Bellevue/Redmond and getting paid those salaries.
If there's a tech "scene" here, I'm unaware of it.
It is not exactly a rural community: it's just 20 or so families of remote tech workers (mostly freelancers) living a few kilometers from a small old town with dirt cheap land and local labor (like "buy a two-story house with one month's SF salary" kind of cheap). It was founded before the pandemic by a guy who used to work as an SWE at Yandex and grew tired of living in Moscow.
I wonder if something like this exists elsewhere.
I like that there are better paying jobs able to be out here on the edge of the desert, but it's really hard to live in places where short-term rentals are combining with folks like me moving into the community. I will never be able to afford a place in town for sure.