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Ask HN: Would mining for oil in the United States again bring down gas prices?

2 points by greatjack613 ↗ HN
I have been wondering what would happen if we would start mining for oil again in the United States, would it bring down gas prices? As for environmental concerns I don’t think we are any worse the having another country mine the oil and then send it over, in fact the transport costs makes it probably twice as worse in terms of the environment. So why don’t we just start mining for oil again here?

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uberman
The US produces 16.582 million barrels of oil per day. In fact, it exports more than it imports making the US a net exported.

Can you clarify what do you mean by "start mining for oil again"?

incomingpain
Would increasing supply of a commodity decrease it's cost?

Yes, obviously.

>As for environmental concerns I don’t think we are any worse the having another country mine the oil and then send it over, in fact the transport costs makes it probably twice as worse in terms of the environment. So why don’t we just start mining for oil again here?

You will notice over the next 5-10 years climate change is going to go away as a subject. It won't go away permanently, but it's going to a non-subject.

Most climate change graphs start around 1850 because solar activity went into the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Maximum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_maximum#/media/File:Suns...

We haven't named the new cycle we entered around 2010. We don't want to mislead science deniers into thinking the sun is involved in climate change at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_hiatus

Yes there has been a hiatus in global warming, it's just coincidence that climate change started during the modern maximum and now that we exited the solar maximum and entered a yet unnamed minimum and global warming stopped. It's pure coincidence.

What's going to happen is that we just drop the subject for some time. We muddy the subject by saying it was el-nino.

logicalmonster
> You will notice over the next 5-10 years climate change is going to go away as a subject.

I think this might be the case, albeit for a very different reason.

Spending time worrying about "climate change" is a luxury people can have when economic times are good. Only the most out of touch in the media class are going to fret about climate change when normal people are in bread lines and the currency is imploding, as may be the case over this time frame.

PS: I think your idea is generally close to correct and that climate change has a bit more to do with the sun, but I'd keep my mind open on this.

incomingpain
>Spending time worrying about "climate change" is a luxury people can have when economic times are good. Only the most out of touch in the media class are going to fret about climate change when normal people are in bread lines and the currency is imploding, as may be the case over this time frame.

Current economic crash YTD is still in progress of crashing. It has already wiped out more wealth than dotcom and financial crisis combined already.

Looking at what hasn't crashed... it looks like major military mobilizations.

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1525161726643257344

At a time of war... this isn't yemen, syria, or somalia. This is a high ranking democrats outright asserting the USA is at war with Russia.

>PS: I think your idea is generally close to correct and that climate change has a bit more to do with the sun, but I'd keep my mind open on this.

Climate change is war propaganda from Russia.