Tell HN: Don't bring your loud mechanical keyboard to the office
Over the past couple of years mechanical keyboards have soared in popularity among engineers. Rightfully so! Owning a custom piece of beautifully crafted equipment is delightful!
However if you own one of the loud ones and want to be considerate to your coworkers, I implore you to not use them at the office. The sound is so loud it pierces through noise cancelling headphones, and it's not fun to have to blast music all day just to cover up the sounds of typing.
There are some options if you want a quieter mechanical keyboard (https://www.electronicshub.org/best-quiet-mechanical-keyboards/) or you can get the o-rings to dampen the sound of the switches on your current model (https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00K73IE1C).
Truly not trying to be a dick writing this, I really get the excitement! But the sound has been driving me up the wall, and I can't be the only one.
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[ 3.7 ms ] story [ 80.2 ms ] threadThe idiotic transition to "open offices" (places where people work without walls or even cubicles separating them) has led to an enormous amount of noise pollution that didn't exist in the past.
I like being able to type while I'm on a call. I have Cherry MX Clears what o-rings, which people tell me they can't hear when I'm on the phone. So that's good.
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Not sure what the lesson is although we’re still married after 30 years.
That you fell hook, line, and sinker for her. That or you're avico-pescatarian: you like "chicks" who eat "fish" [/Erlich Bachman joke]. Cheers to you both!
Kind of funny how the thing that bothers me is a problem but the thing that doesn’t bother me isn’t a problem.
How 'bout you just get some headphones so you can't hear the staccato clickity-clack of me making progress on my typewriter while you are busy acquiring another neurosis.
I'd like to be able to type properly please. If you were typing too instead of complaining, you'd learn why we need switches that work properly.
I keep a few nice 90s' ones from HP and IBM. Sun's sucked yet people typed a lot on those. There's been decent ones from Dell and you can still get older IBM/Lenovo Preferred Pros. They're fine. I don't think switching to rubber domes back then was a cost cutting measure, that's peanuts for the prices of those systems. Noise was considered distracting, maybe stressful, actually sustained noise is. If you shared a lab with 30 people banging on Model Ms you'd agree. Mechanicals are great for gaming, I give you that.
They are also excellent for typing. I can type much faster and more accurately when I have tactile feedback like: https://www.cherrymx.de/cherry-mx/mx-special/mx-clear.html#t... I don't even game at all.
> If you shared a lab with 30 people banging on Model Ms you'd agree.
What if you shared a lab with 30 Selectric typewriters or couple line printers? I did. People complaining about the "noise" from Cherry clears and similar are over-reacting.
> you just like them
I do! And you don't! and guess who's keyboard it is? This is why I'm testy. People like different things. When that happens: mind your own business and cope.
It's no more inconvenient for you to hear my (not that loud) "silent" cherry clears than for you to impose on me to have to type on a keyboard that doesn't work for me.
And we can all agree that the guy that cooks fish in the microwave is our shared enemy.
Enjoy your RSI, nutjob.
Sounds to me like you're a lot neurotic about telling other people what to like.
> Rubber dome keyboards work just fine, for everyone
Because you know what everyone should do and like? They don't work better for me.
> are in fact considerably better for lengthy typing sessions
Not a "fact", for me and for about half of the coders I know. Please stop assuming that the way you perceive the world applies to everybody else.
> RSI
Ah, you're my doctor and physical therapist, too? I didn't realize it was you.
> nutjob
Name calling because I like a different keyboard than you? Yea, office noise is not the biggest problem in your immediate work area, I'll bet.
How's this: you type on what you like and stop telling others what to do. Everybody needs to deal with background noise (AC, telephones, conversations, squeaky chairs, clicky pens, etc.) in their own way and keyboards (clicky or not) are only a tiny part of that problem.
The current open plan offices are insanely wastefull if you want any kind of productivity.
So if you have this kind of problem, it means the people above you don't care about your productivity.
WFH has many advantages in addition to avoiding long commutes.
There's a maturity stage where engineering is put into separate offices from sales. Then all you get is the symphony of coffee smells, click clacking keyboards, with the occasional stand up comedy or Taylor Swift coming from the CTO's speakers.
Now that we've stroked your ego and complimented your keyboard we get down to it "I implore you to not use them them at the office" So now we've established that you're use of a mechanical keyboard is completely frivolous and ego driven while they have a legitimate complaint. While you're just admiring your "beautifully crafted equipment" they're dealing with piercing noise.
Now that they've made their case they need to back off again to appear reasonable by offering a couple of helpful suggestions to get you comply with their demand/request with the implication that there are no compromises being made with these dampening solutions.
We follow up with denying what they're sure the reader is thinking, "This person is a dick", with, "Truly not trying to be a dick writing this". Oh, but you are. "I really get the excitement!" There's that useless exclamation point. They totally get it, not enough to get one themselves, or not write a dickish email but they get it. "The sound has been driving me up the wall, and I can't be the only one" and now we finally get to it. They just don't like it and they want you to stop. You can't be the only one because everyone is like them and they're so reasonable that there must be people out there like them.
Either take an office poll or shut the hell up. You very well may be the only one. You've completely marginalized and dismissed any serious medical advantage to the wellbeing of my fingers and wrists. Those are my money makers. Without that I'm screwed. You know what that sound is? It's the sound of money being made. It's what's probably paying your salary so no I'm not going to leave my mechanical keyboard at home and I'm not going to put those shitty o-rings on my keyboard.
However, I don't think I'd mind working in some kind of old-fashioned newsroom with a steady click-clack-cacophony of typewriters. Go figure.
For sure other people have their limits too. Almost nobody else thought they were that bothersome until the Model M made a short-lived appearance at the office.
When I do go in the office, I have sales people on calls and other people talking in an open office floor plan. Nose canceling headphones are lifesavers
At home, I have an ergodox and put gazzew u4 boba silent tactiles switches, key caps with o-rings, and put sorbothane foam inside the ergodox to dampen noise. I’m a heavy typist. My wife who’s a light sleeper and my 18 month toddler appreciate me working quietly.