When is it too late to go back to school
I want to go back to school (I am a two semester drop-out of a state school). I just got back from spending some time at the MIT campus and while I don't think that it is absolutely necessary, I lust for the formal teaching with good, enlightened CS teaching.
Part of what opened me up to this was postings on HN of EWD's "The Humble Programmer" and "On the Cruelty of Actually Teaching Computer Science" that were posted here.
I'm happy with my career, but now I am struggling moving into C and systems programming which is what I like. My carrer progression was 6 years of SA work, then more like security administration SA work (Kerberos, firewalls, fighting off snake oild vendors), and finally Kerberos engineering which I have done for a few years (C code, high level understandings of the protocol, evangelism).
Is there any path of going back? Work experience credit? I feel like the 10 years of IT that I have done counts for something. I'm 30 now, is it worth it?
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[ 28.5 ms ] story [ 2936 ms ] threadBut I think that way beyond the technical training you will get in CS, the true value of a university education is taking classes in a wide variety of fields: literature, sociology, biology, math, physics, foreign language, history, etc....and having a chance to talk to other smart people about what you're learning. As someone else recently said, the intersection of the humanities and engineering/sciences is a wild and rewarding place to live.
I expect that the fact that I am used to working borderline psychotic hours means that I could be able to maybe even perform some interesting work at the same time as studying, but this is not something I think that I should count on. That said, I really want to avoid accumulating debt and the 20-30k that I would expect from a "good" school is something that I am carefully weighing with the more affordable state school.
EWD worked at University of Texas Austin.
Jump on in, it's lovely in here!
Do you want it? If so, then go.
Learning is always good - you just have to pick the method/path that works for you. You also must keep your expectations inline with your abilities and method of schooling you pick.
Unless you go to a very good school or you want the full-time campus experience, you might be better off going part time. At 30, you will not be part of the regular social scene - so you can gain most of the experience in a part time program. If you live near a large city (New York, Boston, Washington DC, etc) there are very good schools that have programs aimed at you. The hours are arranged for people with full-time jobs.
In your 10 years of work you have learned how to manage your time. You are also much more motivated than you were when you were 18. Studying and homework are easy compared to work.
If your company will reimburse tuition, you can afford the better quality, higher cost university. Unless you have high hopes (move into research) just about any reputable school will be fine as you stated your goal is to learn and change the direction of your career. Not having a BS is a handicap.
I highly recommend going back to school. Look at the programs close to your location and weigh the benefits/costs of part time vs fill time. Will the cash cost of going full-time be recouped by a much higher salary? If you are serious, you can finish in 4 years if you take classes in the summer, test out of everything you can and take distance learning classes. Maybe less than 4 years if your classes transfer.
It will be a lifestyle change - can you handle going to class 2-3 nights a week? Read and study on the weekends?
Get some information and get started. Even if you think there needs to be some changes in scheduling at work, I bet you could do one course a semester.
BTW - I went back and got my BS in CS after 5 years - then an MS part time and finally a PhD. If you enjoy the material - it can be done.
Good luck!
Are you on the East coast? How were your sat/act scores? I would try CMU, Urbana-Champaign, Georgia Tech, NC Chapel Hill, & maybe Berkeley if you're willing to move that far.
Remember as a nontraditional student you will get increased financial aid availability for housing and other expenses that someone under 23 doesn't get.
Also note that if you can get into a private school, they usually have incredibly high grant offerings. The hard part isn't paying for private, it's getting in.
Lastly, your financial aid works of the previous tax year. While in school I was able to keep my income below 15k / year and got full aid the entire time. If yours is higher, then your expected contribution may match or outweigh the yearly cost of a public school, but you'll still have a shot at very high aid packages at private schools because of the cost difference.
Check financial aid info at http://www.collegeboard.com Your next step, no matter what, is to fill out the fafsa at http://www.fafsa.ed.gov You have to wait for a pin so start right now. Then when you get your pin, it shouldn't take you more than an hour with a W2 to estimate your EFC.
Armed with that information, you can start asking the right questions about cost. And if you decide to wait another year, then all you have to do is update your account instead of redoing the whole thing.