What startup snakery have you experienced as a developer / employee?
I've also experienced interviews where I had to develop a core feature for them as a coding test to see if im good enough, or even advise (as part of the coding test) a junior/mid-level developer (who was the interviewer) on how to scale their backend for GPU processing and how to design the database before he told me I'm not good enough for the job as I told him he is fishing for the solution he doesn't even have.
The point of this point is I want to bring to light immoral shit that startups do and possibly have a platform where we suffered from their 'scams' and at least bring those to light. I want to hear more of what you have experienced with startups.
Were you dismissed for "poor performance" for reasons that do not make sense? Did your colleagues betray you or suddenly become cold and distant? what happened? This is the thread to show all the evil bullshit that startups have done to you or colleagues. How would you hold them accountable?
24 comments
[ 3.3 ms ] story [ 66.6 ms ] threadYour wording is pretty telling.
People being put on "performance improvement plans" out of spite.
Turns out that dev, a senior dev with more than 10 years of experience, was getting paid, in london, 37k gbp a year.
Went to the MD and explained the unfairness of all this and demanded a pay raise on his behalf, since i was his manager.
Was bluntly told, with a laugh nonetheless, “he is on a work visa, whats he going to do about it anyway?”.
Thats when i understood the power of visa tied work. Certain types of employers love it as a means to control workers and undercut wages. A good reason for some to want to leave the eu - couldnt control foreign stuff and couldnt depress wages since everyone was on equal terms.
Fast forward a few months. I went on as a head of dev at another company, hired the guy, almost doubled his pay and made him a team lead because that was his fair level of experience. No more snaps.
This was about a month after I balked when the company tried to take ownership over an open source project of mine (which they never ended up using because it also by necessity has very dangerous code to be able to do its thing).
Always make them pay.
Uber owes almost a billion in non paid social security and worker expenses in Switzerland. They are now finally going to be forced to pay. Any other company thinking they can pull the same scam will think twice now.
I totally agree with your basic point, but can the amount you've mentioned be true ? I'm assuming you referring to "almost a billion" USD. Tesla sold ~5,000 cars in Switzerland last year. The European HQ is in Netherlands and manufacturing/assembly is split between Netherlands/Germany, so I'm assuming that Swiss employees are essentially sales/service. For a hundred cars a week how many of them can there be ?
[1] https://www.20min.ch/story/uber-soll-fahrern-eine-halbe-mill...
The only silver lining to this story is that no one was actually pulling 80 hour weeks because the information asymmetry that the executive suite maintained around this topic created an atmosphere of mistrust and a common opinion that our equity must be worthless, since if we had been given something actually valuable then they would have wanted us to know about it.
Once was by someone who told me to do this verbally. He was not formally my manager but some nepotism was happening at the company. I wasn't able to push back on most things with him, this is one of the few things I pushed back on some directly, and then just didn't do it. Also, this was all told to me verbally - I didn't really trust this person, and am sure if someone had noticed I hadn't really completed any of these things I was claiming to have finished, he would have disavowed that he had told me to do this.
On the other hand, I was under a good lead once where we were getting a lot done but had two weeks where were just doing prep work. The lead said to do a UI mockup and to mention during the demo that the UI was a mockup because "they won't understand any how" but it was the only method of some to understand we were making progress. In this case I did demo the mockups, saying they were mockups, since I did trust this lead, and we were making steady progress, he just wanted demos to show something UI displayable every sprint.
- some people were having second full time job, their performance was visibly poor but lead was assuming good faith and was taking active steps to motovate these guys, like giving them interesting projects and focusing on code they were shipping (he didn't know their bad performance was coming from having two full time jobs, this came out after company was shutdown)
- management of said startup never shared real revenue numbers (all zeros), they kept doing this until company was dissolved and we were told it's our last day without notice, even though our contracts had from 1 month to 3 months notice
- in one software house I have heard people taking pride of having two or even three jobs simultaneously and sharing 'hacks' how to keep doing this without being spotted
Even in office CEO was tracking the "work" via installed cctv from remote since he was in US.
It turns out that guy was control freak.