Fantastic idea and looks like it might be nice implementation, just not enough detail on the product for me to sign up and have a play.
No ToS, no privacy statement, nothing. Who are you?
Also:
1. Can I mark my account as hidden until I want people to see it?
2. What will you do with my data? Note, with LinkedIn it's pretty clear what they're going to do from the get-go just because of the nature of the service, with this there's nothing. Are you going to sell my details to recruiters? If so can I opt out? Do I have to pay rent if I do? Note some people won't care (perhaps a lot), this community is a bit of an outlier when it comes to privacy concerns.
3. What domain will I have, can I use my own?
4. Can I change the default style (as the example isn't really to my tastes)
Edit: One last thing, a full size example would be good too. You must have your own?
There seems to be no style options and no domain/URL options. You just fill in boxes and it generates a random URL after your username as the resume. You can have more than one resume with different random URLs.
There's a LinkedIn import button to grab your list of employers and dates of employment, but it somehow gave me the wrong dates.
I think the random string is clever. My first instinct would be that you should be able to reach it at http://resume.io/dangrossman, but then if someone is familiar with the service they could circumvent the tracking URLs.
On the other hand, having a human friendly URL might be nice in the long run for easily finding people. Definitely a tradeoff.
I'm working on adding relevant policy pages now. Building the site sounded more fun :)
Resumes are hidden until shared with people by giving them the URL. Everyone has a business card, which is public. I'm planning on making it so you can choose to have a resume replace your business card.
My resumes are typically tweaked to be job specific. Do I get to create just one generic apply-to-all copy?
How about tracking metrics other than just views? Following http://paulbutler.org/archives/experiment-in-testing-my-resu... there are: how far into resume one scrolls, clickthroughs on embedded links, inclusion/exclusion of sections (e.g. grades for recent grads).
Better seems very subjective. I spent more time trying to figure out how to read a re.vu candidate's charts and visualizations than quickly digesting useful information about the candidate.
I am a fan of exploring portfolios. I am not a fan of exploring resumes. Especially when I would like to flip through a few hundred quickly.
I was hoping it would act as a linkedin importer with impression tracking. The thing I like about linkedin is that I keep that information updated anyway and if anyone needs to pull a resume they can do so from my profile. This, while nice, is more work - which makes it not all that useful.
Not bad, a nice simple hosted resume solution. I'm not a designer but it seems to me that the visual distinction achieved by the indentation on the left side of resume items could be improved a bit. It all seems kind of mashed together and somehow hard on the eyes.
As mentioned in another comment, http://re.vu is a totally different approach that attempts to enable slick display of a ton of information.
I still prefer what I currently use: Markdown + pandoc + github + bit.ly. That gives me the following:
1. Version control, backup and hosting from Github.
2. Plain text for posting in the occasional web form or whenever else I might need a plain text resume.
3. One-command conversion to PDF using pandoc with a very simple LaTeX header (which I could automate with git hooks if I was lazy enough).
4. One-command conversion to HTML using pandoc, with a CSS file. I can jazz up the CSS and then print to PDF from my browser if I ever want something prettier.
I guess it seems like "make a business version of X" is always sensible, so maybe this is like the business version of http://about.me/ ?
Personally, the resume process whenever I have applied anywhere has been: (1) make a beautiful resume in LaTeX, (2) export beautiful LaTeX resume to PDF, (3) get asked for an MS Word Doc or plain text so they can put it in their recruitment system.
Does passively posting a resume work for people? Does it lead to actual good recruiter interactions, rather than noise? Or is this for freelancers?
I agree that your job search has to be active. Check out http://workastic.com. I wrote it so that people know exactly what to do when they are looking for a job (the secret: activate your network and get referrals to the companies you want to work at).
It has the same idea of tracking who sees your resume, and more importantly, who does what with it.
I think any move towards online resumes is great. It makes no sense that all recuitment is online yet all documents are off-line.
I don't keep a resume anymore, but on occasion someone asks me for one. I normally tell them I don't have one and point to my site, linkedin page, etc.
A couple of times recently I've been told that 'online resumes are not accepted'. Presumably because they can be changed after the fact. Ie - insert fake job, submit resume, remove fake job. Or something.
Of course, I just use the linkedin export to PDF option and send it to the lazy person shakes fist
But you might want to either (a) have a pdf export for people and/or (b) have a 'guarantee locked version' or something so that people know the version they are looking at hasn't changed since they first saw it.
Yes, I know, it's weird to want to refuse updates to a resume, but apparently people want that. It's more about ass-covering by documentation, but I guess that's what many people are about.
Well. There might be legitimate things that need to be corrected. Spelling / Grammar for instance. Why not have the last modified and a history. Save off the diffs so you can recreate the older versions for potential employers.
Another option is that a new revision generates a new random string for the URL and that revision is always available there.
What about versioning? I don't want all my versions exposed, but an ability to link to a specific version would be nice. Maybe a random url for each version. Your site could then guarantee that old versions can not be changed. Include the date of the version on the page, together with a link to the most recent version.
Resume.io looks very simple but too simple for me. I have been fiddling around with re.vu and am very impressed. I like the ease of creating interesting infographics and attaching my work. re.vu easily creates something that gives an employer an instant insight into who I am instead of just a name on a page of text.
Tried it out, excellent execution. The Linkedin import is a killer.
But, what's the use case for a product like this? I mean, I had my CV on Linkedin for ages. Same goes for most of the professionals I know.
How does a product like this one - and the others mentioned in the comments - position itself in a space dominated by Linkedin and personal web sites (such as flavors.me)?
I'm curious of that too. What's the differentiator? If it's just that it's 'simple' then why not just create a simple facade over sites like LinkedIn (full disclosure I work there)? What incentive do users have in the long run to maintain yet another site with information about them. At some point after undergrad I went around tracking down all those about-me sites that accumulated around the net and had outdated or completely erroneous information. I get the feeling this would stale in the same way.
Another question (not just for you, but all online resume sites): How do you do identity management? I mean if I really wanted it, I could fake someones name, address, phone, (even photo, if that option would be available) etc easily, insert some false facts about education and work history and then let people start to google for it. I mean, you could always file a removal request, if you might stumble upon such a (your) faked profile, but you would have to ensure somehow, that the requester is the right person this time.
Or am I missing some mechanism to prevent this sort of identity thefts?
Cool idea though I wonder if you apply to a job at say a large Co or firm, most likely the resume will be looked at printed/copied into word/outlook and mailed around - smart tracking system thwarted though this is more for targeted resume applications.
Other issues is that many sites/firms etc require word or pdf resumes and are skeptical (at least for most non techie positions) of anything that is neither.
I have mixed emotions about this post. It's both really frustrating & reassuring for me at the same time. I've been working (with a partner) on a very similar concept for the past couple of months.
Though I'd say that the features of ours are far more developed (we're implementing most of the ones I've seen suggested in this post); you're first to market. I guess the list of MVP features we've been working towards was just a little too long. Lesson learnt.
Sigh! I'll just have to get that signup page finished a little bit quicker.
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[ 2.9 ms ] story [ 113 ms ] threadNo ToS, no privacy statement, nothing. Who are you?
Also:
1. Can I mark my account as hidden until I want people to see it?
2. What will you do with my data? Note, with LinkedIn it's pretty clear what they're going to do from the get-go just because of the nature of the service, with this there's nothing. Are you going to sell my details to recruiters? If so can I opt out? Do I have to pay rent if I do? Note some people won't care (perhaps a lot), this community is a bit of an outlier when it comes to privacy concerns.
3. What domain will I have, can I use my own?
4. Can I change the default style (as the example isn't really to my tastes)
Edit: One last thing, a full size example would be good too. You must have your own?
http://resume.io/dangrossman/xisuxools3
There seems to be no style options and no domain/URL options. You just fill in boxes and it generates a random URL after your username as the resume. You can have more than one resume with different random URLs.
There's a LinkedIn import button to grab your list of employers and dates of employment, but it somehow gave me the wrong dates.
On the other hand, having a human friendly URL might be nice in the long run for easily finding people. Definitely a tradeoff.
Resumes are hidden until shared with people by giving them the URL. Everyone has a business card, which is public. I'm planning on making it so you can choose to have a resume replace your business card.
Here are mine:
- http://resume.io/jacob - http://resume.io/jacob/glistoisog
Planning on adding custom domains soon! Only the default style for now, but adding more to choose from is certainly something on the roadmap.
How about tracking metrics other than just views? Following http://paulbutler.org/archives/experiment-in-testing-my-resu... there are: how far into resume one scrolls, clickthroughs on embedded links, inclusion/exclusion of sections (e.g. grades for recent grads).
Interesting! Will look into those.
http://cl.ly/283i2B0y1p1W0G3J0f0q
http://re.vu/BarackObama
http://re.vu/stephen http://re.vu/bart http://re.vu/mikeharding
It's like it is talking, but not saying anything.
I am a fan of exploring portfolios. I am not a fan of exploring resumes. Especially when I would like to flip through a few hundred quickly.
if you look at the typical hr or recruiter workflow its when they copy/paste the resume into an email impressions that matters..
that is why with my boilerplate framework I use tynt services to track that..
boilerplate framework should be up over this weekend at my github account..
awesome work jacob. ^_^
As mentioned in another comment, http://re.vu is a totally different approach that attempts to enable slick display of a ton of information.
I still prefer what I currently use: Markdown + pandoc + github + bit.ly. That gives me the following:
1. Version control, backup and hosting from Github.
2. Plain text for posting in the occasional web form or whenever else I might need a plain text resume.
3. One-command conversion to PDF using pandoc with a very simple LaTeX header (which I could automate with git hooks if I was lazy enough).
4. One-command conversion to HTML using pandoc, with a CSS file. I can jazz up the CSS and then print to PDF from my browser if I ever want something prettier.
5. Readable URLs using bit.ly that point to the latest version, for which I can easily view analytics by appending +, including country and referrer: http://bit.ly/mwhiteresume and http://bit.ly/mwhiteresumepdf
6. The awesomeness that is Github's Markdown style.
http://github.com/mwhite/resume
Would love to see the final version.
I guess it seems like "make a business version of X" is always sensible, so maybe this is like the business version of http://about.me/ ?
Personally, the resume process whenever I have applied anywhere has been: (1) make a beautiful resume in LaTeX, (2) export beautiful LaTeX resume to PDF, (3) get asked for an MS Word Doc or plain text so they can put it in their recruitment system.
Does passively posting a resume work for people? Does it lead to actual good recruiter interactions, rather than noise? Or is this for freelancers?
It has the same idea of tracking who sees your resume, and more importantly, who does what with it.
It can take a resume upload or a linkedin profile and give you your own personalized resume URL like:
http://www.indeed.com/me/TreyHenninger
The resume search is awesome for employers too. http://www.indeed.com/resumes
Disclaimer: I work at indeed, but not on the resume product.
I don't keep a resume anymore, but on occasion someone asks me for one. I normally tell them I don't have one and point to my site, linkedin page, etc.
A couple of times recently I've been told that 'online resumes are not accepted'. Presumably because they can be changed after the fact. Ie - insert fake job, submit resume, remove fake job. Or something.
Of course, I just use the linkedin export to PDF option and send it to the lazy person shakes fist
But you might want to either (a) have a pdf export for people and/or (b) have a 'guarantee locked version' or something so that people know the version they are looking at hasn't changed since they first saw it.
Yes, I know, it's weird to want to refuse updates to a resume, but apparently people want that. It's more about ass-covering by documentation, but I guess that's what many people are about.
Planning on adding .pdf and .txt export support soon for sure.
Thanks!
Another option is that a new revision generates a new random string for the URL and that revision is always available there.
But, what's the use case for a product like this? I mean, I had my CV on Linkedin for ages. Same goes for most of the professionals I know.
How does a product like this one - and the others mentioned in the comments - position itself in a space dominated by Linkedin and personal web sites (such as flavors.me)?
Another question (not just for you, but all online resume sites): How do you do identity management? I mean if I really wanted it, I could fake someones name, address, phone, (even photo, if that option would be available) etc easily, insert some false facts about education and work history and then let people start to google for it. I mean, you could always file a removal request, if you might stumble upon such a (your) faked profile, but you would have to ensure somehow, that the requester is the right person this time.
Or am I missing some mechanism to prevent this sort of identity thefts?
Other issues is that many sites/firms etc require word or pdf resumes and are skeptical (at least for most non techie positions) of anything that is neither.
Often employers want Word Documents anyway, which I suppose they could export from Google Docs.
Not sure if it is possible to share documents with non-GMail email addresses on GDocs, which would be a must.
This is possible. You can set a document to be visible to anyone with the link, so sign-in isn't requred. More info here:
https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answ...
Was wondering if it is possible to change the URL of the resume page?
Though I'd say that the features of ours are far more developed (we're implementing most of the ones I've seen suggested in this post); you're first to market. I guess the list of MVP features we've been working towards was just a little too long. Lesson learnt.
Sigh! I'll just have to get that signup page finished a little bit quicker.
- Switch to a better font
- definitely lose the italics
- I'd drop the breadcrumb at the top of the resume view page, that could easily confuse someone reading it
- Certainly avoid usernames appearing on the public stuff
Good stuff :)